One release, so many formats

Wav, flac, aac, mp3, CDs, SACDs, downloads – which to choose? Here's a solution...

Andrew Everard 10:04am GMT 4th February 2011

There’s a lot of talk around the audiophile forums, and indeed on the Gramophone one, about computer-stored and physical audio formats. Should one be ripping discs as .wav, .flac, .aac, .mp3, buying CDs or SACDs, downloading files at CD quality, or even searching for internet sites offering even higher resolutions?

Or is it better to hope that the Blu-ray format will expand its audio-only offering, making high-quality discs able to be played even on relatively inexpensive hardware? After all, £100 will buy you a very decent BD player these days.

The solution, as I discovered when compiling this month’s round-up of the best-sounding releases for my monthly Super Audio Corner in the magazine, is already here – and it comes from one of the smaller labels.

I’m a big admirer of Norwegian label 2L, and listening to its “Kind” recording I started delving deeper into what this two-disc package had to offer. On the surface, you have LPCM stereo and DTS-HD 5.0-channel, both at 192kHz/24-bit, on the Blu-ray disc, plus a hybrid CD/SACD disc in the same package.

However, with your Blu-ray player connected to a home network, you can also download the entire contents of the disc from the internet, in a choice of high-resolution 192kHz/24-bit or 96kHz/24-bit FLAC, CD-quality WAV or (for portable players) MP3.

Using a home computer on the same network, you can access your Blu-ray player via a web browser and, using proprietary mShuttle technology provided on the disc, download the additional content to your home computer.

This can then be stored for later playback, or indeed copied to a portable MP3 player or an iPod or similar device.

In other words, it has just about every format anyone could ever want, all in one package, for home listening, playing in the car or copying to a handheld player or phone.

Now why can’t all releases be like that?

(See the March issue of Gramophone, on sale now, for more audio articles and reviews)

Andrew Everard

Andrew Everard, Audio Editor of Gramophone since November 1999, read English at Queens' College, Cambridge a very long time ago, and was a member of the Westminster Abbey Special Choir even further back in the mists of time. He has worked on What Hi-Fi? Sound and Vision, High Fidelity, Audiophile and Home Cinema magazines, as well as contributing a monthly column to Japanese title HiVi.

Comments

We were told that the digital world would simplify matters for the average person.....who are you kidding....or is the status quo a  matter of money and greed....

Andrew,

I followed the first part of your blog without any difficulty but the second part lost me completely.  Will the March issues explain this more for the benefit of middling technophiles like myself? 

Life used to be easy. One just put a CD (or other type of disc) in a player connected to an amplifier, which was in turn connected to some speakers.  I would still like to do this but Gramophone has put the cat amongst the pigeons by making us listen to music on the internet.  This was done without any consultation with the readers and without any notice period.  Had I known I would probably have gone down a totally different track when I replaced my PC based computer system some months back.

Andrew Everard also seemed to be in favour of CDs and similar media and somewhat averse to MP3, iPods and the like.

Now all of a sudden down-loading, streaming, storage systems, wireless solutions and numerous other wonderful things are in vogue.  Some readers are becoming hot under the collar about what is the best solution for this and that.  Meanwhile certain readers like myself are becoming more and more confused.

Is it possible for Gramophone to provide a really useful, simple to understand, and reasonably comprehensive, article or series of articles on all of these issues.  It would be very helpful if this contained a series of comparison tables giving the merits or otherwise of different formats, different wireless solutions, and different storage solutions available on the market.  I come from a reasonably technical background but have been retired for some 8 years now and have found most of your articles about these subjects totally  inadequate.

I am sure that Andrew Everard and colleagues could do a wonderful job in educating us given the scope and space; Gramophone readers have always put listening  to music above all else, so please help us to do so in the 21st century!

josbonello wrote:
We were told that the digital world would simplify matters for the average person.....who are you kidding....or is the status quo a  matter of money and greed....

I hardly see how offering the consumer a range of formats on the same release can be seen as 'a matter of money and greed': if you don't want the extra formats, you simply don't play them.

TRUrwin,

The main reason I was so averse to iPods and the like in the past was simply that the sound quality on offer was relatively poor when compared to that available on CD or SA-CD releases.

The benefits now offered by the falling price of computer storage, and the range of high-quality streaming music solutions, mean that it's now possible to store music at or beyond CD quality and have it available for instant access, which is one of the main reasons I have now embraced this technology.

I have tried over recent months to explain elements of this technology, from choosing storage formats to the means of accessing the stored music, in the 'Everything you need to know about' column in the magazine, but clearly I need to do more to clarify matters. I shall ensure I do so.

Andrew Everard wrote:

 

I have tried over recent months to explain elements of this technology, from choosing storage formats to the means of accessing the stored music, in the 'Everything you need to know about' column in the magazine...

Indeed he has. And at some point soon I'll draw together Andrew's advice and explanations written for the magazine, and put links to them online so you can all read them.

Dear TRUrwin,

 

Let me see if I can shed some light on the topic.  Most of us listening to music use the cd format, which consists of digital music delivered in a physical disc.  We can purchase any number of disc players, both portable or not to play the disc.  However, there are any number of other ways to play back the same music.  Namely, portable music players such as the iPod and more recently-digital music servers.  iPods are todays Walkman.  You may or may not have a use for one- I happen to like mine wallking the dog.  

Cds contain a large amount of information (some 500-750 mb.)  iPods are wonderful for allowing you to listen to a large amount of music while being mobile, but have a more limited ability to store information than your computer.  Fortunately, there are all sorts of nifty ways to put your music files that go on your computer on a diet in order to not hog so much space.  

Here are your two options:

1.  Lossy Compression-  file formats such as mp3 and aac make the songs on your cd much smaller by throwing away information that psychoacoustic models believe you cannot readily hear.  Upside= files 50-70% smaller than equivalent cd songs.  Downside= sound quality that ranges from horrible to acceptable.  Additionally, once you convert your music to these file types, that additional quality that you threw out is permanently gone.  Application= iPod.

2.  Lossless Compression- file formats like Apple Lossless and FLAC use mathematical origami to slim your music files. Upside= files 20-40% smaller than cd songs.  Downside= there is none.  The sound is exactly the same as a cd.  Application= digital music library on your computer.  Additional benefit- these can be unfolded into the original cd .wav file, burned onto a cd and then played in any cd or dvd player.

What to buy.  Avoid buying mp3 or aac files.  You are paying full price for 1/2 the hamburger.  Some companies sell FLAC versions of digital releases.  These sound identical to a cd and allow you to avoid waiting to receive hot new releases.

Digital Music Servers are what I believe are the future for how we will listen to music at home.  Using your computer, a music player like iTunes and a quality digital to analog converter you can have all the quality of top rate cd players with the convenience of having your entire music collection at your fingertips.

In my home I take my cds and carefully remove my music to iTunes using the Apple Lossless format.  Same quality as my cds.  This then becomes my repository for all of my music.  When I want to put music on my iPod, I can easily take a cd or song and make a condensed version of the Apple Lossless track(s) using the AAC compression format at a higher bit rate, such as 320 kbps.  The fidelity is more than adequate for walking the dog.  However, the fidelity of that same 320 kbps music sounds noticeably inferior to the Apple Lossless version on a proper HiFi. 

Best wishes,

 

Patrick 

I would just like to say that listening to SACD discs can be an amazing experience. If you want to discover and appreciate what all the fuss is about just listen to Gergiev's LSO recording of Mahler 8, the last track 18 on a surround sound system - it's awsome... the crescendo of sound and the accoustic of St. Paul's Cathedral...you're there!!

It has astounded, and moved many of my friends who do not listen to classical music and even converted one!

Patrick,

Great answer.  I do the same as you.  I download FLAC's and convert to Apple Lossless, keep the FLACS as archive somewhere and listen to everything in the iTunes Jukebox (Playlists by composer and work). The sound is fed through good hifi (Naim) and provides a simple, engaging,  musical (above all) experience. 

Please, Mr. Everard (and Mr Jolly), focus comments in Gramophone on the issues which really matter to those of us who use this (now pretty mainstream) method of getting our music:

1. Shambolic problems of metadata at DG:  tracks downloaded at (almost) CD prices have to be manually named and ordered because the FLAC encoding DG use simply does not transfer from FLAC to Apple Lossless.

2. No (or relatively few) sleeve notes or cover art:  easily fixed, as the absolutely impeccable website of Hyperion demonstrates.

3. Shambolic "Release Dates": Universal/DG again: weeks after the so-called "release date" for an Album, still no sign of the download (try the Batiashvili Shostakovitch)

4. Non-availability of some albums for download months after they are released, if at all (Diana Damrau, Strauss Lieder) on Passionato (only outlet for EMI Lossless).  

In short the marketing of Linn, Hyperion, Chandos and other small labels (let's hope Harmonia Mundi joins them soon) has been excellent: top quality products, widely available etc.  The marketing of the 'Big Labels" has been absolutely dreadful.

Next time your readers hear a senior executive of a big label whinging about decreasing business opportunities in the digital age, they may care to remember this note and the frustration with their ham fisted incompetence which lies behind it.

If, as rumoured, iTunes were to upgrade the tracks offered online to cd-equivalent or better (again, the rumour is that this is partly what the server farm in North Carolina may be for), they would wipe the floor with Sony (not available directly in the UK at all ), DG (pretty but incompetent), EMI (completely random as to whether or even if the sell online).

Thanks for reading this rant.  I thought Patricks' note so good on the downstream part of our much-loved music collecting that felt I could vent on the upstream bit!

Patrick,

Great answer.  I do the same as you.  I download FLAC's and convert to Apple Lossless, keep the FLACS as archive somewhere and listen to everything in the iTunes Jukebox (Playlists by composer and work). The sound is fed through good hifi (Naim) and provides a simple, engaging,  musical (above all) experience. 

Please, Mr. Everard (and Mr Jolly), focus comments in Gramophone on the issues which really matter to those of us who use this (now pretty mainstream) method of getting our music:

1. Shambolic problems of metadata at DG:  tracks downloaded at (almost) CD prices have to be manually named and ordered because the FLAC encoding DG use simply does not transfer from FLAC to Apple Lossless.

2. No (or relatively few) sleeve notes or cover art:  easily fixed, as the absolutely impeccable website of Hyperion demonstrates.

3. Shambolic "Release Dates": Universal/DG again: weeks after the so-called "release date" for an Album, still no sign of the download (try the Batiashvili Shostakovitch)

4. Non-availability of some albums for download months after they are released, if at all (Diana Damrau, Strauss Lieder) on Passionato (only outlet for EMI Lossless).  

In short the marketing of Linn, Hyperion, Chandos and other small labels (let's hope Harmonia Mundi joins them soon) has been excellent: top quality products, widely available etc.  The marketing of the 'Big Labels" has been absolutely dreadful.

Next time your readers hear a senior executive of a big label whingeing about decreasing business opportunities in the digital age, they may care to remember this note and the frustration with their ham fisted incompetence which lies behind it.

If, as rumoured, iTunes were to upgrade the tracks offered online to cd-equivalent or better (again, the rumour is that this is partly what the server farm in North Carolina may be for), they would wipe the floor with Sony (not available directly in the UK at all ), DG (pretty but incompetent), EMI (completely random as to whether or even if the sell online).

Thanks for reading this rant.  I thought Patricks' note so good on the downstream part of our much-loved music collecting that felt I could vent on the upstream bit!

My humble apologies for the double post.  I was trying to correct spelling mistakes....

 

brasfort