Cartridge for Quad 44

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33lp, thanks! No, I do not

33lp, thanks!
No, I do not know the difference between those two models,
but I have noticed that the styli of the two cartridges have different descriptions and denotations; The M 97 HE has a hyper-elliptical stylus, N 97 HE, whereas the M 97xE has an elliptical one, N 97xE. I do not know what the difference between 'hyper-elliptical' and 'elliptical' means, neither in theory nor in practice, and I am happy to try to find an answer to this issue.
Best regards, Awg.

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RE: 33lp, thanks! No, I do not

Awg wrote:

I do not know what the difference between 'hyper-elliptical' and 'elliptical' means, neither in theory nor in practice, and I am happy to try to find an answer to this issue. Best regards, Awg.

It's just a different stylus profile. They were for ever meddling around with stylus shape for optimum stylus/groove contact and minimum distortion. How much difference these changes made to sound is perhaps a matter for debate. They certainly made a difference to stylus cost. It's pretty much what ski manufacturers are always doing and cynics complain that most of the changes are aimed mainly at keeping the market on the boil.

My experience is that HE styli did minimise distortion. I'm less certain they produced a better overall sound. 

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Thanks, tagalie, for your

Thanks, tagalie, for your answer.
If I buy a M 97 xE, I will be happy to compare the two cartridges.
Best regards, Awg.

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RE: Cartridge for Quad 44

Yes, awg, I don't know the availability today of original Shure styli but the xE & HE styli should be interchangeable with the cartridge body being the same in both cases. Tagalie reminded me that when the M75 series first appeared it was available with about four different spherical & elliptical stylus assemblies for different tracking weights & tonearms (and there was probably a stylus assembly for 78s as well). When the top M75 appeared in 1972, the M75ED Type 2 I read Stanley Kelly's review in the Gramophone, describing its performance as "exemplary" and bought one to replace the earlier M44 series in my Lenco GL75 turntable. The Type 2 is still there today (with a new original Shure stylus a few years ago) and still sounds great and preferable to CD!

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RE: Cartridge for Quad 44

Hello i could do with so help also, i have just bought a Marantz PM6004 and have a Rega Planar 3 with a moving coil cartridge, what would be the best MM cartridge, at a price, for this setup? (baring in mind that the Rega is 30years old) 

Please help ASAP

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RE: Cartridge for Quad 44

CJ93

I have recently replaced my cartridge with a Goldring, I think it's the 1042, but can't be sure. It cost just over £100. I am generally very pleased with it. In particular, it copes with disk imperfections very well.

Mine is a Linn deck, of nearly the same vintage, but I do also like the Rega.

DSM

PS I was also supplied with the NAD phono preamp. In fact when I first requested such a thing from the hifi shop I was half expecting a different make. But this is also very good, in fact I had rarely heard Nad equipment before this but would now definitely consider it. The advantage of it is it doesn't really sound like anything, it is completely neutral and understated.

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I presume the Marantz has a built in MM phono stage but it may be possible to get a step up matching transformer to match your present MC to the Marantz which may be worth while if it is a particularly good cartridge?

The last cartridge I got was a Shure M97xE over a decade ago for a Project turntable and I am more than happy with it but I have no experience with transistor amps and use it with my own valve phono stage & the power amp shown.

I am equally happpy with a 40 yr old M75ED type 2 in my old Lenco turntable used with a different valve amp.

The only HiFi magazine I take regularly (because of their enthusiasm for valves & vinyl) has often commented positively on the Goldring series mentioned by DSM which I think starts with the 1012 and goes up to 1042 (same body, different styli?), but I haven't heard one.

Unfortunately not so easy to audition these days.