Discrepancies between CDs and vinyl originals
Fri, Feb 8 2013, 1:00AM
In the 80s we were told CDs were perfect.
Today
I felt in the mood to listen to Mahler's "Leider eines fahrenden
Gesellen". Sat back & listened to Fischer-Dieskau with Furtwangler
courtesy of the EMI Mahler Complete Works set. Enjoyable but with
slightly harsh sound (the recording is over 60 years old).
I have
a good turntable & a copy of the original record (HMV OALP 1270).
Curious as to how the LP compared I put it on. Despite some surface
noise the vinyl fared well. What I wasn't expecting was the fact that
the record played at a slower tempo & lower pitch than the CD. I
checked a number of times fearing my belt was worn but no - the
turntable was correct.
I did a direct comparison of "Ich hatt'
ein gluhend Messer". LP time was 3.30, CD 3.23. This is equivalent to
the LP revolving at around 34.3 rpm.
I'm sure this is a rarity but it shouldn't happen. Does anyone else have similar stories?
Mon, Feb 11 2013, 2:41PM
#2
RE: Discrepancies between CDs and vinyl originals
I think Bruckner has both sides of the argument here.
In the Te Deum it is just about impossible to convey the large choir, orchestra, and organ without severe congestion on an LP record. On CD it is much much better.
As for the Klemperer Bruckner 6th transfer; I have the CD of this and it sounds terrible. I eventually managed to track down the LP version, which replaces the Vuvuzelas by real orchestral trumpets !!!
Thu, May 2 2013, 5:18PM
#3
RE: Discrepancies between CDs and vinyl originals
Would it be that at the time of 'converting' analog to digital remastering, the engineer trimmed away the few seconds of blanks in the beginning and towards the end of the music ? To me apparently, the blank is longer in the vinyl than CDs.
Thu, May 2 2013, 7:24PM
#4
RE: Discrepancies between CDs and vinyl originals
Post-1997 cd reissues of the famous Miles Davis 'Kind of Blue' incorporate a speed correction. Apparently the original tape speed was inaccurate and issues up to then were slightly sharp.
Hi Bill. The best that I can make from your given description is that EMI did some remastering from the original source tapes (hopefully from the original source tapes). There may have been some speed and pitch variation in the original recording do to the era of technology which would then explain the disrecrepancy between the early vinyl and the recent digital remaster. I remember listening to the original vinyl 'Someone In Love' by Ella Fitzgerald and it was apparent that the voice tracks were superimposed over the orchestral tracks and the two were not in sync.
goofyfoot