Is this gramophone playing good?

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john.anthony888
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I want to buy this HMV 102 gramophone, but I am a little bit disappointed of its sound. I posted two youtube links with the gramophone while playing two different records. Pay attention especially to the second video. The song is distorted or slowed down in few places. Is a faulty record, does the gramophone need to be cleaned and greased or it's just me who is paranoid and the sound is fine? What do you think, guys? Please help me. Thanks.

Here are the links:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qn6uZ5-WUuI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Nas-fyVLv0

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RE: Is this gramophone playing good?

Well a friend of mine had that model and once told me that he's had some problems with the diaphragm because the gramophone stood in a place with high humidity. He found out that there have been a corrosion at the rim of the diaphragm. Afterwards he was completely satisfied with it and had no further issues...

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RE: Is this gramophone playing good?

You can see from the reflections on the rim of the records that they are "dished" i.e. not as flat as they should be. Maybe this is the fault of the mat the discs sit on but you can check the discs by putting them on a flat surface e.g. a  chess-board. It is also possible that the central holes are wider than they should be and so the discs are off-centered. A small thin sheet of tissue paper placed over the spindle before you place a disc might help. Don't force it,  find a thinner tissue if necessary. I notice that the stylus is possibly made of steel which gives a very bright even brittle sound and is the worst from the point of view of record wear.  However if you are only playing them once to make a recording that is not a problem. So the gramophone itself is probably OK. Record lovers of old would choose thorn styli and have cunning machines to resharpen them regularly but I doubt there are any suppliers nowadays. If I recall the styli were angled to point forward along the groove a little more than your picture shows.

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RE: Is this gramophone playing good?

Surely the second record is going too fast? But I would have thought the sound was OK on the first. Steel needles were available with different points described as "loud" or "soft" tone.

As a child our HMV electric record player plugged into the radio pickup sockets  took similar needles and I was told on no account must steel needles be used on the expensive classical records and I have many memories of sharpening what we called fibre needles after each side. Steel needles were allowed on the light music records from the grandparents which had already been played with steel on an acoustic machine.

Best of luck!

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RE: Is this gramophone playing good?

oh, I found someone with exactly the same issue - maybe it's possible to contact him because of it? Funny...

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