The Brennan JB7

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Is the rumble from the headphone socket or the line outs?

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I've alternated between both & the rumble remains

Only 2 discs so far out of 30 though

I would have thought that the line out s/be used to the amp & as such the JB7 controls would be inoperative.

However, the Brennan website says to use the headphone out socket in order to switch off the internal amp but of course by leaving the JB7's treble & bass settings as standard produces much distortion & as such, whats the use of the line out?

Reducing the volume out on the JB7 to say 1 (0 mutes it completely) means there's not enough sound to the amp so I seem to settle for say 15 out of 28

Most strange!

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Is it possible that you have connected the output from the JB7 ito an amp input that is designed for a turntable (probably marked 'phono')?

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Jethro said:

>> USB can also be used to plug in a keyboard to edit or add your own or missing info, not all the world to do when your listening or copying, <<

How do you get a Brennan JB 7 to accept input from a keyboard please?

And do you have any advice on how to keep track of all of the CD. tracks you have loaded on to it?

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SpiderJon wrote:

Rip your CDs to a computer using EAC and buy some sort of Squeezebox to stream music to your hi-fi - that may require you to get a wi-fi router, but they're cheap and easy enough to set up. (If you wanted to expand on your "logistical problems" no doubt people here could help.)

Job done, and for not a lot of money.

 Following advice (several items above) from SpiderJon, I am happy to report that  I now have a Squeezebox running with a new WiFi router and supported by a Synology DiskStation NAS.

Apart from a few things I had to learn about Squeezebox filing, I have been able to impose my own filing system on it. - more or less the same as Gramphone reviews - Orchestral etc, with composers listed at the next level of the hierarchy and works below that.  The main quirk of Squeezebox filing is that if your have items numbered 1,2...10,11, it reads them in the order 1,10, 11,12 unless you force it into the right order by making 1= 01, 2 = 02 etc.

I am most  gfrateful to the forum for sorting this out and I am certain it's much better than the Brennan.

 

 

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I use the freeware MediaMonkey to rename, edit the tags and organise the tracks according to track numbers, before setting Slimserver to rescan.  In this way Slimserver will play the tracks in the track number sequence.  You can download MediaMonkey from www.mediamonkey.com  It will accept all the file formats that Squeezebox can play. 

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I notice a lot of the discussion is about sound quality and I've seen just one post about the information management aspects of the device. I am currently debating the idea of getting a JB7 but I must say I'm not convinced. The basic model has 160GB storage, which I think reflects entry-level capacity for any internal or external hard drives. Once converted into CD-equivalents that represents a lot of content; converted into tracks it is an order of magnitude larger. I recognise the attraction of getting such a large number of CDs off shelves, etc. but I'd want to do more with the content. Specifically, I find it disappointing that the Brennan offers only 7 pre-labelled playlists and no opportunity to do anything else other than run it on shuffle play; or selecting a CD at a time; or a track at time. I have a 9000+ (and rising) track-collection and am susceptible to the common temptation of wanting to create a range of playlists - eg. one for a dinner party; one for another type of party; etc. and wanting to keep them once created. So being limited to only 7 playlists or shuffle play seems pretty restrictive for my purposes. It is disappointing that the Brennan therefore offers only partial functionality compared to an iPod, but at twice the price. Against this I recognise the Brennan incorporates a lot more functionality and was never intended to provide portable music. Moreover it doesn't have the same, substantial restrictions on the sources from which music can be input that limit the iPod. All the same it seems incongruous to offer such huge storage capacity and so little scope to manipulate it. Perhaps it doesn't matter to most people, or maybe there is a way of providing some sort of halfway-house solution (eg. can you pull off the playlist listing onto an external drive to provide a remote library that can be reloaded?) I'd be interested to hear the opinion of people who have the machine whether they find this an issue, recognising the way they "use" the music may be different to mine. Thanks for any feedback.

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Reading this forum has been most interesting and has put me off the idea of buying a Brennan for all the reasons listed above.

My reason for considering a Brennan is that I have a pub/hotel and want something which plays gentle pleasant stuff in the mornings and more interesting stuff later on, rather than the modern rubbish that the staff like to play when my back is turned, and a system which controls the content and retrieves various genre's of music would be a boon.

But if not a Brennan, what is the alternative? I don't have 1000's of cd's to download and little interest in modern music post about 1980. Do downloads of music selections exist? or classical selections? As I understand it, the Brennan's capacity for filing and retrieving is limited but is there a better alternative?

Apart from the pub I've also got an old Quad system with electrostatics and the idea of getting a box which holds and plays a decent array of music through it would be great - but does such a thing exist? 

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This may seem obvious but I'd say an iPod with a docking station with speakers is probably what you are looking for. I'm still debating over the Brennan but have been looking at something similar as an alternative which appears to be a bit cheaper. A new iPod classic with the largest storage (160GB) costs £175-ish but it sounds like you don't need anything like that capacity. I suspect with the launches of the iPod Nano, etc. you could now get a reconditioned second-hand iPod Classic for a reasonable price, connect it to your PC and download iTunes onto it.

Docking stations with speakers come in at anything from around £40 to £200 (just happened to check this earlier today).

There are other iPod-like products and other combinations like the Sony GigaJuke. I suggest looking on Amazon or eBay to see what's available and to get representative prices.

I am only familiar with the Apple solution, although I don't currently have an iPod. But its functionality should give you the file management flexibility you are looking for - ie. using the playlists to segment the tracks in the library and recall them as the mood takes you. The docking station means it is portable so you can move it from room to room and lock it up safely at night too given you'd be using it in a public place. Amazon and the Apple iTunes store are the first places I'd check for music compilations though I have no idea what to put into their search engines.

 I hope this helps.

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ever so slightly off topic - sorry.

I have just read about the Brennan and at this time, althought quite knowledgeable about "traditional" Hi-Fi - and quite computer literate, I have not "progressed" to "hard disk based" music. Like with chemical based photography versus digital, I have been concerned about the audio quality of hard disk based music and to be honest, most of the articles I have read have not been very convincing but I have just come accros this forum and am impressed by the quality of the contributors' input. I obviously need to get up to speed and my question to the group is - where shall I start in order to ramp my knowledge up to speed?  I must say that I agree with one of the contributors that using my pc for playing music is a bit of a faf and seems a bit like using a disposable camera for taking serios photos. Please can someone point me in the right direction.

Regards to all

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Frankly, if I had the money to invest in a Brennan, I would buy a Buffalo Tech 4 TeraByte hard drive (set it up in RAID mirror mode so I would have a back up), rip all my CDs into Apple Lossless, and listen from my PC. Of course, I would also invest in PC equipped with an HDMI port and hook it up to something like a Bose home theater system or better for the best sound quality and throw away my hi fi.

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Using is a PC to listen to music is just the same as from a hi fi, provided you have really good computer speakers which obviously means starting with some high end computer speakers or a home theather system. Nowadays, you can buy a PC or laptop with a HDMI port which means you can hook it up to a terrific home theater system or even to your TV. And the quality of the sound will also depend on the quality of the file. You would have to import your CDs at least at 390 kps if using MP3 or 256 kps if using AAC. You may even want to all the way and import them into FLAC or Apple Lossless if you are using iTunes software. You can store your files on any external hard drive not just the Brennan, but make sure your hard drive and your computer have a USB 3.0 port or eSATA port that have a higher throughput rate so that you don't have stutters in the music. Buffalo Tech and La Cie make affordable large capacity drives.

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parisboy42 wrote:
You would have to import your CDs at least at 390 kps if using MP3...

Tricky, as MP3's maximum bitrate is 320 kbps ;-)  (and you can achieve smaller file sizes using VBR, too).

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... make sure your hard drive and your computer have a USB 3.0 port or eSATA port that have a higher throughput rate so that you don't have stutters in the music.

The great thing about audio is that it's (relatively) low bitrate, so you really don't need the latest (and most almost inevitably most expensive) technology.

Even the 1.5 Mbps of the 'ancient' USB 1.0 standard is more than enough for compressed audio of CD quality, and USB 2.0's realistic maximum of 320Mbps is 1,000 times what you need to stream MP3s.

High quality audio will stream 'stutterlessly' over 10Mbps Ethernet (or the realistic maximum of 6Mbps of 802.11b wireless), so USB 3.0's 4.8Gbps is complete overkill.

Even if you think you might also want to stream HD video, USB 2.0 is far more than is needed.

It's all good news, because it means you can use  older - and therefore cheaper (and quite often more reliable) - technology as a media streaming system.

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I am tempted by the Brennan but am not convinced I need another music storage device.

I have an old amp and newish Kef floor speakers, I plug my laptop into my amp via the headphone socket (also my ipod this way too) and I have near CD quality sound. The only difference to my ears is less volume and bass. Easily corrected.

I will upgrade my amp in the near future and also add a quality external soundcard to the pc - seems to be advisable for better sound (any suggestions?).

I too get mixed up with the lossless/flac/kbs jargon and have decided not to worry any longer as am happy with the sound coming out - just listened to the excellent Mullova/Labeque Ravel Vn Sonata which I switched from CD player to PC during its play and was completely happy with the sound from my pc.

Someone within this debate described themselves as a 'HiFi fan' rather than an 'audiophile' and I think that says a lot about where most of us sit.

 

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Hi all

I have posted on this topic and would like to keep up with any new posts.

I know this particular question is a bit off topic - but would someone please tell me how to sign up for email alerts.

I am not new to forums in general - butwith this one I cannot see any way to watch the topic.

Again - sorry the question is not directly related to the Brennan - but if someone can just help me out here - I can get back to discussign the device again. 

Thanks

Geoff