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troyen1 wrote:

Must say that I am disappointed in the response. Perhaps, the Proms, as a thread, will be revived nearer the time or are posters happier talking about music on CD?

I'd love to talk about the Proms first hand. But even in a non-Olympic/Jubilee year the 10,000 mile round trip is less of a deterent than the dosshouse-standard-at-palace-prices style of hotel accomodation when you get there.

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What! And miss 3, yes three, Vaughan Williams symphonies in one concert in one evening!?

4000 miles is a short distance in comparison to a lifetimes chance which is, unlikely, to be repeated. And it's Manze at the helm!

The Olympics are on one side of town, the Proms on the other and will go on long after the Lympics are a faded memory (unless, of course, there is a major 'incident').

Fortunately, I'm on the right side of town but thought I might leave the planet to avoid the Jubbly and Limpiks. It is the only way.

I am sure somebody else would make much better use of a ticket to the VW triple concert than me. Now if they were putting on Nono's Prometheus I might be talking to the family!

Where I currently live/work (Rio de Janeiro) we have a very poor diet of live classical music, for many reasons. There is an interest cello festival every year and once in a while an orchestra on tour but I am rather jealous of Sao Paulo, where they have a very good orchestra and have just Marin Alsop to take it up a notch. But while we don't have the Proms, we have Carnaval... to paraphrase the great Alex Ferguson, 'Samba... bloody hell!'

And as for the future, in the next four years we get the World Cup and the Olympics. Hopefully we'll still be here to see both, although I suspect my wife would rather be based somewhere else by 2016.

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There's always a curious sense of deflation when you've geared yourself up for a marathon billious rant and it turns out that everything goes smoothly. At the stroke -literally - of 9 this morning, I logged on to the Proms booking site, confidently expecting a cheery message informing me that I was 4000th+ in the queue and advising me not to let my eyes stray from the screen for the next three hours. For the last 3 years, I think my highest position when booking opened has been 3500th. But lo and behold, I was 100th in line, and 6 minutes later had got all performances and seats asked for.

I have posted this fundamentally uninteresting, if not downright boring, news in the spirit of joy, world peace and repentance (or something like that) 

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Would you care to expand on this?

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AS Lawson wrote:

Would you care to expand on this?

Scott

To whom is this addressed? If it's to my post, then the answer is no, I don't feel any need to 'expand'.

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AS Lawson wrote:

Would you care to expand on this?

Scott

To whom is this addressed? If it's to my post, then the answer is no, I don't feel any need to 'expand'.

Clearly, you left out a lot of detail.

Well done, by the way!

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JKH wrote:

AS Lawson wrote:

Would you care to expand on this?

Scott

To whom is this addressed? If it's to my post, then the answer is no, I don't feel any need to 'expand'.

Clearly, you left out a lot of detail.

Well done, by the way!

Yes, it's difficult to know what other similarly boring details I could have fleshed it out with, Troyen.

And thanks - now all I have to do is not stage a repeat of the multiple cock-ups of last year which included: turning up without the tickets for one concert, doing the same for another concert and then finding out at teh box office that we hadn't in fact booked for it in the first place, and turning up for one concert with the tickets for another one. This give Mission Control considerable ammo in the caustic remarks territory, and I confidently expect the incidents to be referred to in the coming weeks.

I blamed the unseasonal weather and unusual sunspot activity, but I don't think it worked. 

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troyen1 wrote:

JKH wrote:

AS Lawson wrote:

Would you care to expand on this?

Scott

To whom is this addressed? If it's to my post, then the answer is no, I don't feel any need to 'expand'.

Clearly, you left out a lot of detail.

Well done, by the way!

Yes, it's difficult to know what other similarly boring details I could have fleshed it out with, Troyen.

And thanks - now all I have to do is not stage a repeat of the multiple cock-ups of last year which included: turning up without the tickets for one concert, doing the same for another concert and then finding out at teh box office that we hadn't in fact booked for it in the first place, and turning up for one concert with the tickets for another one. This give Mission Control considerable ammo in the caustic remarks territory, and I confidently expect the incidents to be referred to in the coming weeks.

I blamed the unseasonal weather and unusual sunspot activity, but I don't think it worked. 

Do you live close to RAH?

It is a train ride away for me although I live at the end of a tube line.

Not that I could pop home if I brought the wrong tickets to a concert or no tickets at all!

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Do you live close to RAH?

It is a train ride away for me although I live at the end of a tube line.

Not that I could pop home if I brought the wrong tickets to a concert or no tickets at all!

Not far at all - about 4-5 miles away in Sarf London, but a long-lasting foot injury is currently obliging me to drive in to work every day in Central London, rather than brave public transport. The trudge up from South Ken is out for me at the moment, so I tend to drive over to the RAH where parking is surprisingly easy if you time it correctly.

I have to say that the staff in the box office at the RAH are always unfailingly helpful in my experience and were gracious enough not to look too full of pity at the first(?) signs of mental decrepitude I displayed in the repeated ticket fiascos of last year.

 

 

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Hi JKH! If it makes you feel any better, the box office themselves do make the odd mess up! Like the time a couple of years ago where I paid on the phone, booked a hotel, had a three hour journey down and the ticket was not there ready for me at the box office. Thankfully the girl printed out a duplicate for me.

Tagalie has reminded me - how could I forget - that with the Olympics it's going to be well-nigh impossible to get a 'palatially priced dosshouse', between 27 July and 12 August. I think those are the Olympics dates, aren't they?

Well there's lots I fancy, but I think I am going to go for proms 50 - 53:

Nielsen symphony 5 (Prom 50)
Shostakovitch symphony 7 (51)
Prokofiev's Cinderella (52)
and a nice sounding late night Prom 53 called Italian Vespers 1612
Prom 54 Shostakovitch symphony 10 even

Two crackers unfortunately fall in the Olympics window - Prom 35 of Sibelius symphonies 3 and 6, and Prom 46 of the three VW symphonies.

Shall have to play it by ear as they say...but those proms as I say look the best bet for me...at the moment anyway.

Mark

PS Naupilus - the Sao Paolo orchestra are doing Dvorak's New World amongst other things  - Prom 45 Wed 15th August.

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Shostakovich's 10 has become a Prom favourite.

It was only a few years back that Dudamel debuted with his Simon Bolivars in the work.

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partsong]</p> <p>Tagalie has reminded me - how could I forget - that with the&nbsp;Olympics it's going to be well-nigh impossible to get a 'palatially priced dosshouse', between 27 July and 12 August. I think those are the Olympics dates, aren't they? </p> <p>[quote]</p> <p>They are indeed. Personally, I think London's going to grind to a standstill ( fairly frequent event in any case) and Transport for London are already advising people that 'certain' tube journeys are 'likely' to take two hours more than normal. Yes, that's correct - two hours. I drive over Westminster Bridge every day and my doom-lade predictions of chaos (or at least those Olympics-related ones) are shared by many. And even those who are successful at locating some astronomically&nbsp;overpriced hovel will face the joy of trekking through the throng. Best of luck!</p> <p>[quote=partsong wrote:

a nice sounding late night Prom 53 called Italian Vespers 1612 ....

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 and Prom 46 of the three VW symphonies.

Yes, we're on for both of those. I rather like the late-night Proms (depending, of course, on the music) which have quite a different atmosphere from the preceding bun-fest. The only problem is when they follow a visiting orchestra, and they have to clear the hall fairly rapidly and thus deprive us of any encores. And although the VW symphonies are at the tail end of the Olympics, I can't really miss them so will be prepared for a degree of traffic-based angst.

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Apologies for that last post which at least proves that my IT abilities are sometimes indistinguishable from my ticket-remembering skills.

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No worries!

I think I'm definitely out for that Olympic period then, because apart from the no room at the inn problem that tube warning sounds horrendous. It was bad enough one year when my hotel was in the Bayswater area and the Notting Hill Carnival was on. Re-routing and certain tube stations closed etc...

And as Troyen says, God forbid and hopefully not, if there is some kind of 'incident' during the greatest sports show.

(JKH - Apologies if I'm teaching my granny how to suck eggs, but make a note on a separate piece of paper of your booking reference numbers and have that on you at all times! That way if a ticket gets forgotten you should be able to get a duplicate printed out at the box office).
Mark

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(JKH - Apologies if I'm teaching my granny how to suck eggs, but make a note on a separate piece of paper of your booking reference numbers and have that on you at all times! That way if a ticket gets forgotten you should be able to get a duplicate printed out at the box office).
Mark

No apology necessary at all, Mark. In fact they usually come up trumps if you show them the credit card the tickets were booked with. I'm thinking of a cunning plan to baffle them by turning up with tickets for the wrong year, but suspect I'll get short shrift from Mission Control.

It's a great pity that Kauffman has cried off from the Trojans run - that was the first 'must have' ticket we put down on this year's shopping list. You've always got to feel sorry for the replacement in such circumstances. I remember eagerly awaiting a Proms Song of the Earth some years ago, only for Siegfried Jerusalem to cry off at the last minute and be replaced by Jeffrey Lawton, who sang well but it was an uphill struggle for him to win over a disappointed audience.

There's always the very occasional result the other way - some 20-plus years ago there was an ENO performance of Lohengrin (or was it Parsifal?) where the tenor cried off and no substitute was available. Strangely, Siegfried Jerusalem was in town and stood in for one performance at the last minute, singing in German while the rest of the cast sang in English. Unfortunately I had decided against going - ho hum.

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