A Similarity Between ‘Paint It, Black’ and ‘Ode to Joy’?

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A Similarity Between ‘Paint It, Black’ and ‘Ode to Joy’?

Am I the only who notices a slight similarity between the opening melody of Paint It, Black (the similarity is stronger when melody is then hummed during the 2nd part of the song) and the melody of Ode to Joy? Maybe it’s just me. I don’t know.

frostwalrus

RE: A Similarity Between ‘Paint It, Black’ and ‘Ode to Joy’?

Yes I'll go along with 'slight' similarity. Do you think Beethoven was a big fan of the 'Stones'? His 5th Symphony is a bit like I can't get no satisfaction!

RE: A Similarity Between ‘Paint It, Black’ and ‘Ode to Joy’?

Well if nothing else it proves that all music has something to recomend it

RE: A Similarity Between ‘Paint It, Black’ and ‘Ode to Joy’?

As a joke, fw, it can pass even in a forum like this one. If, however, you mean it, then, find the scores of the two works (possibly, there should be an official score for "Paint it Black") and either judge by yourself or ask somebody who can read music to tell you the differences first and, in the end, you may try to find whether there is any similarity.

If you still trace one, then, I guess I have to try my research, since I sense there is a similarity between "Yesterday" and "Addio del Passato"!..

Parla

RE: A Similarity Between ‘Paint It, Black’ and ‘Ode to Joy’?

Funny. 

I always end up singing 'We'll Gather Lilacs In The Spring Again' during the slow movement to Ireland's piano concerto.

Pause for thought.

RE: A Similarity Between ‘Paint It, Black’ and ‘Ode to Joy’?

parla "As a joke, fw, it can pass even in a forum like this one. If, however, you mean it, then, find the scores of the two works (possibly, there should be an official score for "Paint it Black") and either judge by yourself or ask somebody who can read music to tell you the differences first and, in the end, you may try to find whether there is any similarity."

All I’m asking is for you to just listen to the humming of the melody during 2:15 - 2:37 of Paint It Black, pause it, and then hum the Ode to Joy melody. When I do this, I can’t help but notice the similarity – even if it is very slight.

frostwalrus

RE: A Similarity Between ‘Paint It, Black’ and ‘Ode to Joy’?

To my ears John Lennon`s Imagine sounds very similar to the theme found in the Adagio of Dvorak`s Cello Concerto. 

RE: A Similarity Between ‘Paint It, Black’ and ‘Ode to Joy’?

If for 22 seconds "Paint it, Black" can reach, somehow, the stratosphere of the "Ode to Joy", I don't think is to the credit of Stones, but rather to their debit. The same applies to Lennon and his Imagine. Of course, the scores can disperse all these clouds of speculation.

As for Beethoven (or Dvorak), I guess they cannot even care less.

Parla

RE: A Similarity Between ‘Paint It, Black’ and ‘Ode to Joy’?

Aren't there enough songs and commercials around that steal melodies from classical music?  Oh well,how about April Showers in the middle of Winter in Vivaldi's Four Seasons or Sweet Rosie O'Grady in Swan Lake.  I am sure there are lots more.

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