Composer of the week : Robert Simpson

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Simpson, were he still with us, would have been 90 years old on Wednesday, so as a tribute I thought it time to give him his due on this post. I haven´t listened to Simpson´s music as much as I would like to, I could say that for a dozen composers but we only live once, but I have always found his music deeply compelling and extremely rewarding to any listener who likes to sink their teeth into a no nonsense musical argument.

He cycles of symphonies and string quartets stand up to comparison with anyone. I intend to listen to the entire symphony cycle this week on Hyperion conducted by Vernon Handley. I only have a handful of the quartets. I have always admired his powerful rhythms, his capacity for large scale development, the way he handles an orchestra, his ability to take basically classical models and make them wholly his own, and totally relevant to the twentieth century, utterly immune to the trends around him. Although poles apart in their musical vocabulary, I think Xenakis and Simpson were very similar in the seriousness with which they set about the business of writing music, and their conviction that it was an affirmation of life, and came from an engagement with the world around them.

Simpson was also a great writer and speaker about music, and his plain speaking, refusal to pull punches, and wearing his heart firmly on his sleeve was something I always appreciated.

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Once again a happy choice, Durob, and timely too. I must dig out my Handley version of the 9th Symphony in honour of Wednesday. The other symphonies I don't know - which would you recommend as being more accessible?

I agree with you about Simpson as a writer on music. He was clear, direct, perceptive and without a trace of pretension. His sympathies were broad too: the Hyperion disc of the Brahms Clarinet Quintet and Clarinet Trio with Thea King have shrewd notes from Simpson on the music. I enjoyed, too, the short interview with Jascha Horenstein about Nielsen (a big influence on Simpson, if I'm right?) on a recent BBC Legends disc.

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Simpson always maintained that Beethoven was the biggest influence on his music, but I think Nielsen was probably the greatest influence on his soundworld. He wrote everything in the last 25 years of his life, with Nielsen´s pen, given to him by Nielsen´s daughter, I presume as a thank you for all he did to enhance her father´s standing on the international front.

I think all of his symphonies are accessible. Some stick more closely to classical models than others, but they are all structured in ways that shouldn´t cause problems for anyone familiar with typical symphonic form. Personally I would recommend the wonderful palindrome that is the Fifth Symphony. The first and last movements contain some of the most thrilling, hell for leather music, you are ever likely to hear. I also am very drawn to the Sixth, analogous to a fertilised egg growing into a human being, being born and growing into an adult. A principle akin to the symphonic writing of those great organic composers Sibelius and Nielsen, and which obviously appealed greatly to their inheritor Simpson.

I would love to know what anyone thinks of the quartets. Which they prefer and why?

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Very enticing recommendations, Durob: thank you. I didn't know that about Simpson and Nielsen's pen. Would you rate the Variations on a theme of Nielsen, I wonder?

I'd also be interested by anyone who knows the quartets. 

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Here’s a man for whom it’s worth succumbing to the collectors’ curse of completism. His works are not necessarily all of even stature, but I’ve yet to find sloppy or pot-boiling Simpson and even pieces that don’t totally convince pay some rewards. Forty years after first hearing his music, here is my personal take.

Simpson’s craftsmanship is his strength and perhaps his Achilles heel. In spite of his, sometimes almost belligerent, assertions that music should speak for itself and that explanation is superfluous, he loves talking about his palindromes, inversions and wedge-shapes, as if losing sight of the fact that if they’re not apparent to the listener or aren’t meaningful within the context of the piece, they don’t add much. Perhaps I’m misreading dubrob’s comparison with Xenakis, because from my limited exposure to him (thanks to dub and others, I rate Kraanerg the most astounding piece of music I’ve heard in years) Xenakis surely composes from and for the gut (despite all that mathematical structuring). On the other hand Simpson is a cerebral composer, perhaps prone to constructing works that look rather better on paper than in performance. A bit like Brian. There’s a reluctance to let it all hang out. Sure, there’s lots of excitement and drama in his music, but it’s mostly rather controlled. You get to know the man’s beliefs and preferences, but not the man himself.

So much for the negatives. The positives swamp them. Influences are Beethoven and Nielsen, the former almost an obsession. Some Bruckner too, especially in symphony 9. Relationship between keys is fundamental to his music, the creation and relaxation of tension caused by key juxtapositions, and in this respect he is a master. Take the finale of the fifth quartet which explores interactions between C and E minor. The resolution at the end, a dying echo of two chords before a couple of punctuation marks, hits me as one of the great homecomings in all music.

Symphonies and quartets are the backbone of his oeuvre and for the sake of brevity I’ll focus on the former. For me, his symphonic achievement forms a reverse arch, as he himself would no doubt put it. The voice is already fully formed in symphony 1, in fact it’s one of my favourite Simpson works with a catchy, lilting triple-time tune in the finale that expresses a pure, personal joy rather rare in Simpson’s works. Symphonies 2-5 extend that high standard although the first movement of 3 is rather bombastic, like being harangued by a latter-day and slightly tipsy Beethoven. To my ears there’s a patina of aridity about symphonies 6, 7, 8 and the first half of 10, a little too much rhetoric and over-working that borders on cleverness. I don’t quite go along with all the praise heaped on 9, which seems to labour rather to state its case. In the back half of 10 and through 11 something emerges that we’ve heard rarely before; Simpson himself. There’s a valedictory feeling, a greater willingness to bare his soul that is touching after so much self-abnegation.

For the Simpson-curious I’d recommend diving in at symphonies 2 and 4, or symphony 11 coupled with the Variations on a theme by Nielsen, two superb Hyperion discs. If they don’t do it for you, Simpson’s probably not your man. But I have to emphasize that despite the reservations expressed above I don’t believe there is such a thing as bad Simpson. With very few exceptions, to my ears he runs from OK to superb.

 

 

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Thanks a lot Tagalie, fascinating post with much to ponder. A couple of things you said strike me right away. He doesn´t let his hair down, you don´t get to know the man himself. I think there´s a lot in that. He said that he didn´t feel free will was involved in writing music, you were led by the logic of the music, as if he were composed by the music itself, and not the other way round. I must say I find this hard to swallow.

I´m very fond of the First Symphony, and over the last two days I´ve listened to most of the latter ones, when I listened to the Eleventh, I heard something altogether different, a wonderful sense of airiness, melody given free reign, a much greater sense of personal emotional involvement, which after listening to 8, 9, and 10 was gladly welcomed. I think you have something when you say he was a bit too clever for his own good in some of those big works. Malcolm MacDonald said that the essence of Simpson was in the quartets, so maybe that´s where we should look or listen to get to know the man behind the music as it were. 

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Dub, I tend to agree that there's less 'cleverness' in the quartets and totally agree re. the 11th symphony. In it, he let the stiff British upper lip slip a little and produced a beautiful work.

I'm pondering yours and John's query re. the quartets. Certainly 4 and 5 are excellent works, the finale of 5 a tour de force as I said. I'll have to go through them again. 9 I recall as a bit dry but overall his quartet cycle is probably my favourite after the Bartok. His quintet and trios are worth investigating too. In fact the only relative 'dogs' I've found in his music are the piano concerto and a choral work called 'Tempi' which strikes me as the composer at his most clever and cutsie. Although there are Simpson fans who completely disagree with me there.

I can't help the feeling that if one of his mates had told him lighten up there Bob, everybody knows you're a bright lad, it might have added that tiny something that's missing from some of his music.

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Tagalie, your first post started me thinking about the whole fascinating conundrum of the visceral/emotional versus the cerebral aspect of composition, inspiration versus craftmanship. I suppoise all the greatest composers are the ones who can harness the two in tandem equally. Inspiration without the craft tends to lead to one hit wonders, and craft without inspiration tends to give rise to dry academic exercises.

Maybe this was the case with Simpson. Maybe inspiration alone, his convictions and passions didn´t take him very far along the compositional road, and he needed to focus on strucural ideas to develop pieces to the length and stature that he wanted, and because his genius was not of the level of Beethoven or Sibelius, the latter was forced to take precedence of the former.

I agree that he was a great craftsman. All his works are seamless, which I think is always one of the hardest tricks to pull off in large scale composition, and tends to separate the men from the boys. Few composers could develop simple ideas into the massive structures that Simpson did convincingly.

He may also have wanted recognition as a serious European composer, and maybe he feared that if he let his hair down more, or put more of himself into his works, he would just be regarded as amother good English composer, maybe this what he felt happened to Havergal Brian. Simpson I feel wanted to be judged on the same terms as Beethoven and Bruckner. I also think this is why for me his orchestral palate tends to be very uniform. The orchestra for him seems to be a single instrument. He doesn´t want to indulge in colourful effects or concertante passages, for fear that anything would get in the way of the thematic development and pure musical argument.

Simpson would have denied this, saying that if the music doesn´t please as a listening experience, all the structural analysis in the world is useless. Maybe he truly believed this, and it was how he heard all the music he loved best, and maybe this was the kind of music he desperately wanted to write, but just wasn´t quite able to do so without constant recourse to variations, wedges, palindromes, counterpoint or key relationships. What do you think?

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dubrob wrote:

Maybe he truly believed this, and it was how he heard all the music he loved best, and maybe this was the kind of music he desperately wanted to write, but just wasn´t quite able to do so without constant recourse to variations, wedges, palindromes, counterpoint or key relationships. What do you think?

I think he was intelligent enough and talented enough to choose his own course with little limitation. In themselves there’s nothing good or bad about palindromes, inversions, wedges etc. and there’s no doubt Simpson is technically very adept in their usage. Surely the two big questions are how well do they serve the musical argument, and are they of any use to the listener? By ‘use’ I mean can we hear or at least feel them? Simpson is an absolute master in his handling of keys. The listener may not know that E minor and C are having a little shindig here (finale of quartet 5) but he/she has to be tone deaf not to recognize that some discussion is going on, that we’re on some kind of course, and at the end we arrive somewhere in an apotheosis that takes your breath away. These kinds of moments abound in Simpson. I’m not sure he gets anywhere near the same mileage out of some of his other wizardry.

When I say I’m not sure, I sincerely mean that. Time and again I’ve revisited a Simpson work and found something that didn’t work for me first time round has now clicked. On the other hand I still find that in a certain mood his fiddling around can irk me no end. I feel like yelling throw away the slide-rule man and go crazy!

In his discourse on the ninth symphony he points out the successive piling-up of fourths and what they eventually lead to. Is a fourth in itself a wonderful thing? Not really, only in so far as it makes up something that is meaningful to us, the listeners, and I would argue that in the case of this symphony there’s a kind of monochromatic feel, perhaps a result of all those fourths, that mitigates against its success.

The question of what ideas or musical germs make good symphonic material is a huge one. And how should a composer combine the various elements that make up a piece of music? Is Prokofiev too obsessed with ‘tunes’ to be a good symphonist? Is Tchaikovsky too emotional and loose? I suspect Simpson would say yes, and I believe he erred just a bit too far in the opposite direction. When he allows a great idea to take wing, as in the finale of symphony 1, or a little genuine personal emotion to peek through, as in the second half of symphony 10 and into 11, he adds that last ingredient to his art.

 

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Big and very fascinating issues here. Why do composers compose? Vaughan Williams grumbled that it must never occur to some people that a man might just want to write a piece of music, in annoyance at extra musical ideas being tagged onto his music by critics, but surely there has to be an initial inspiration to get you started, whether it´s something as general as frustration, anger at the news, enjoying a walk in the park, the everyday emotions or more particular experiences we can all relate to.

As you said there´s nothing great about fourths in themselves, and if working out a structure based on fourths is the only reason to compose a piece of music, and it´s not readily apparent to the listener, my guess is that not many people are going to want to listen to it. If the structure is readily apparent, and what you do is intellectually intriguing and pleasing, that´s a different ball game, I´m thinking of some of Bartok´s wonderful palindromes and arch structures.

No music is written in a void, and no human is immune to the world around him or her, the very world that made them into the composer they are, so anyone trying to deny the fact is kidding themselves. Schoenberg and Webern are often accused of being dry intellectuals, but they rarely composed anything without extra musical ideas, indeed Webern found it difficult to compose atonally without song texts. Even the atonal pieces without specific reference are never simply academic exercises. Schoenberg´s Three Piano Pieces for me ooze a wonderful atmosphere of a composer languishing however tentatively in a completely new world of sound. Equally Farben from the 5 Orchestral pieces, is a fascinating idea, fascinatingly realised.

Getting a bit of the point here, but maybe Simpson in his more arid moments let the craft get the better of the inspiration as you said and more´s the pity.

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Excellent discussion, everyone.  I've always been sympathetic to Simpson's arguments, without ever actually having been convinced.  I dip into his symphonies at least a couple times each year.

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Big and very fascinating issues here.

Absolutely, to the extent I found myself going off on 50 different tangents during the day, started to compose a post and gave up realizing it was becoming a kind of 4-pint discussion.

Trying to keep it to half a pint, I've been going through Simpson's chamber music to see if I could boil in down to a couple of strong recommendations. Half way through it I'm concluding it's more a case of superb, memorable movements within generally-strong works. Any of the first six would do. The main thing I'm noticing is that his ideas and structure are more easily followed than in the symphonies. There are far more - dare I say it - tunes! Yes, a fair few melodies and catchy phrases. Some light, even flippant, passages. As Simpson-heads have been telling us for decades, his chamber music may be the real man.

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I've just listened to the CD of the 9th on my new hifi system - brilliant stuff and no doubt influenced by Bruckner. The 3rd, 4th and 5th are also very good (Good astronomical record covers also to refer to a different topic in these pages)

However, I'm not sure if I fully agree with Simpson's criticism of the 1889 version of Bruckner's 3rd.