We have been here before, remember?
I guess you posted this before you saw the post that preceded it Bliss?
How easily Parla fell for Brodsky's mischief-making.
What a pair!
Well come on victor, you like to pose questions but then moan endlessly when you don't get the answers you want.
As a human. do you recognise greatness or do you confer greatness?
Or do you really believe that you are a god!
Now, we are only me and you and...your multi-personality nemesis, who keeps making pertinent fun against almost any single post you deliver.
No Parla, what he's doing is playing you like a fish on a line. You signaled an end. He posted a comment. You couldn't resist taking the bait.
guess we have to respect the forum's decorum and core interests.
Since when has this been a consideration for you? As a fair number of your 1149 postings have been argument for argument''s sake with anyone who disagrees with you, such claims have a hollow ring about them.
If the editor or moderators make clear their preference for this debate to end I would post a final statement and leave it that. On balance, however, I suspect the debate stimulates a more positive than negative reaction, but we are not the best judges of that.
Based on how many posts you send to
ignite one from me also exhibits your obsession on the matter
I am intrigued to think my contributions have such an inflammatory effect on you Parla!
Who cares, anyway?
Well I do. And you very obviously do. So what's the problem?
The pursuit of truth is a perfect excuse.
A reason rather than an excuse surely?
Now you have a choice: either confirm your unwillingness to proceed (and others can decide why you do so) or use language and logic to defend your stated proposition, which has come down to: "greatness is not a value judgement and thus not humanly attributed" - or conferred, or any synonym you wish to use.
Claims made and not defended are worthless. You have a case and it's far from a proposition by Wittgenstein, so defend it or give up on it. You can't have it both ways. Well, you can, I suppose, but the conclusion of doing so will be obvious to everyone.
Your friend in contention,
You, dear Vic, took the bait! You even ignore the hint I gave you that the"debate is over". The rest of this paragraph was in German for Uber Alice to refrain from further comments, while thanking him (in advance).
However, I admire once more the "excitement", the dedication, the eagerness, the fervour to respond with 3 posts! Outstanding!
To sum up, once more: The debate (for all of us, except for you and Uber alles, vielleicht) is over.
I'm sure you'll come with another 3 posts to interpret every single word, phrase or sentence of this post, but, kein Problem. Be my guest!
Fair enough. A bit of a misunderstanding then? I took your post praising Brodsky's prompt and the re-statement of your position as a desire to continue.
So it is over and we can let our respective positions stand for others to evaluate if anyone out there is bothered to do so.
I thank you for your exchanges and trust you have found the debate stimulating if somewhat frustrating at times, as I have.
Despite the heat generated at times, be assured of my respect and not a little admiration for the wealth of knowledge and experience you bring to this forum. I trust you will accept that my challenges on the three issues we have crossed swords have be genuinely motivated.
Pace, pace, oh, Dio! So, eventually, Peace on this forum, Vic.
I thank you too for our exchanges, while I found them more frustrating than stimulating, from my perspective, but that's a matter of my perception.
You may trust that on "the three issues we have crossed swords", my positions were fully genuinely expressed and motivated too.
So, let's talk about some good (if not great) music, now. What about Haydn's Piano Sonata No.62 in E flat?
Clearly, it is not over until it's over and, yet again, I have deprived you of the last word and post on this thread.
You could let it go, of course, but you cannot can you?
Yes, I can! (I have done it before, even if you don't remember or notice it.)
Can, However, Vic let it go as well? If yes, then you'll have the last word. Well done, Troyen!
The champion of the mediocre from the 'rock opera' generation has put his pen down (or at least his crayon). Put in the Beethoven CD and press 'play' in celebration.
Either you fall for it every time or you do, seriously, want the last word or everybody to admit it's a draw, which would be a victory for you, of sorts.
ey up, that victor never knows when to keep his head down, he's always coming back for one more, he can't resist it, stay down victor you are a beaten man.