Future of Radio 3
Sun, Oct 16 2011, 10:08AM
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The BBC is as corrupt as any other large corporation.........Burn it down now and lets dance around the bonfire.
They should form a plan to float the BBC on the London Stock Exchange immediately...
Well whatever the 'doctorate' is in, I'd guess it isn't in anything business-related or even tangentially linked to the commercial deity at whose shrine you and your fellow libertarian sect members worship. The inconstistency in your approach seems likely to result in one of the less succesful public flotations of a burnt offering.
JKH
Sun, Oct 16 2011, 3:18PM
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Excellent idea - Float the BBC down the Thames and set fire to it. It is really time that it either funded itself or disappeared. The idea of a publically funded braodcasting service may have held water once, but I'm sure the NEP and 'The great leap forward' sounded like good ideas at the time. This kind of funding belongs to the 20th century.
Sun, Oct 16 2011, 5:12PM
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Positively Pavlovian.
It's good to see that some things remain constant in an ever-changing world. Even the constancy of lunacy has its place in everyone's heart.
JKH
Sun, Nov 6 2011, 8:15PM
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I have had the (mis)fortune to listen to Radio 3 in the mornings this week and despite Roger Wrights provarications there is a definate trend for playing 'bits' of standard repertoire. Single movements of symphonies more ballet music than you can shake a stick at.
Although I did discover Ch'io mi scordi di te? K505.
Then after breakfast we get to listen to Rob Cowen's favourite 'Essential Classics' ........yawn!
Mon, Nov 7 2011, 12:02AM
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I have had the (mis)fortune to listen to Radio 3 in the mornings this week and despite Roger Wrights provarications there is a definate trend for playing 'bits' of standard repertoire. Single movements of symphonies more ballet music than you can shake a stick at.
Although I did discover Ch'io mi scordi di te? K505.
Then after breakfast we get to listen to Rob Cowen's favourite 'Essential Classics' ........yawn!
This will increase as the cuts take there full effect.
Expect more repeats.
Tue, Nov 8 2011, 12:26PM
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I am adding this note in defense
of the BBC’s, dilemma in programming Radio 3.
Although the program makers at
Radio 3 (BBC) have to consider budget limitations, it has also to be receptive
to the impact of new technologies, such as internet radio on its potential
audiences.
Broadband internet enables listeners
to stream radio stations from anywhere in the world. I recently acquired an AV
receiver for a modest ₤500, which reaches thousands of radio stations. Most US
cities, such as Boston, LA, Chicago, Minneapolis and many others stream non-stop
classical music with knowledgeable presenters all day. From France there is the
excellent France Musique amongst many others from Germany, Switzerland, etc.
The audio quality at typical 128 kbps is at least as good as fm radio.
After all Bach, Vivaldi or Mahler
are the same in any language.
Winning audiences in the specialised
sector of classical music is today much harder and unpredictable compared to
the cozy days of the Third Programme.
I, therefore, have much sympathy
for the producers at the BBC in its remit to provide quality programming and
retain a sizable audience that today has unlimited choices in accessing music.
bhg
Tue, Nov 8 2011, 4:03PM
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I think everyone can sympathise with the BBC in its struggle to maintain a core audience whilst reaching out to potential new listeners. I am certainly not as exercised as some about the playing of single movements, nor desprately worried about repeats, since I still think we are extraordinarily well served overall. What I object to are the extra-musical, irrelevant, and thoroughly misguided, methods that employed to capture these new listeners. These have been commented before by others, so I'll not repeat them. Unfortunately we can't return to the days of Cormac Rigby (who played as many single movements and excerpts as anyone, I suspect) but that doesn't mean moving to Classic FM-land and its teeth-grinding banal irrelevancies. Anyway, I'm repeating myself from earlier posts now and beginning to froth at the mouth, so rant over.
The audio quality at typical 128 kbps is at least as good as fm radio.
As a comparatively recent convert to lossless streaming and broadband/internet radio, I am very enthusiastic about the range and quality on offer. The 320kb transmissions (is that still an appropriate term?) are superb. Leaving aside the wider FM v DAB/Internet debate, I can't agree that 128kb is the equivalent of FM. To my ears there's a very distinct reduction in sound quality below 192kb, particularly noticeable on heavy, concerted orchestral/operatic material.
Incidentally, I asked on another thread whether the BBC had any plans to upgrade Radio 3 content on the iPlayer to 320kb. There was some talk of it a while ago, but I've heard nothing since. Has anyone else?
JKH
Tue, Dec 13 2011, 8:05AM
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...The inclusion of witless 'Twitter' and e-mail comments...
The spread of 'interactive' material is very worrying for me - I look to Radio 3 as an escape from babble and advertising.
Tue, Dec 13 2011, 10:08PM
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Broadband internet enables listeners
to stream radio stations from anywhere in the world.
Yes but not everyone in the world is paying for the privilege of listening/watching the BBC. I am. But despite my many protestations to them and BBC Trust form filling/meetings/listener questionaires, etc., and discussions with other listener groups, change for the worse prevails.
How cheap Radio 3 could be. Just play music with an announcer offering background info occasional interviews and music related documentaries. God knows how much 'back catalogue' the BBC has that we'd all love to hear. We now get news updates every 15 mins in the morning, if I want news I'll go to R4 or R5.
Wed, Dec 14 2011, 8:00AM
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Before deciding whether to support the scrapping of the BBC licence fee, I would like to know how much a subscription to Radio 3, Radio 4 and BBC Four would cost.
Wed, Dec 14 2011, 8:48AM
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'Our attention span is much shorter'
Roger Wright, Feedback 07oct11
Oh no it isn't.
Thu, Dec 15 2011, 8:32AM
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Before deciding whether to support the scrapping of the BBC licence fee, I would like to know how much a subscription to Radio 3, Radio 4 and BBC Four would cost.
Unfortunately Kev it would be nice to pic and choose what BBC output we subscribe to but BBC2, BBC4 and Radio3 wouldn't survive without the license fee.
Thu, Dec 15 2011, 5:29PM
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Radio 4 is quite safe, so long as the 'Today' programme survives and housewives tune in to 'Your and Yours' at lunchtime. BBC4 might work as an encrypted subscription service on freeview, but that would mean the ghettoisation of quality proprgammes and probably isn't necessary now that it has found winners like 'The Killing'
Fri, Dec 16 2011, 10:23AM
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Carrying on with this discussion, axeing Radio 3 would mean the axeing of the various BBC orchestras including those in the regions and make it very difficult to sustain the Proms in their present form. Almost certainly a step too far at present, but with the current anticipated austerity programme now reaching almost the proverbial seven lean years, who knows?
What do liberal crusaders wear these days Vic. I can't see the sandals but I notice you have no goat beard tut tut.