Hands up! Whose music do you really hate? A continuation...

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parla wrote:

I second this last statement of yours, Troyen.

Focus and debate on music, please.

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I try, nobody knows how hard I try, but I am forever deflected by Trolls (have I been trollied or trolled?) who fail to understand that I am mocking their awful opinions but, having said that, they may (yeah, right) think the same of me but lack the wherewithal to express it.

You understand that, do you not, Parla? You do, don't you?

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By all possible means, Troyen, although I struggle sometimes with your relentless and ruthless sense of humour, which, sometimes to some posters, may supersede the essence of your posts.

However, your contributions are always welcome to any debate for their pertinence and strong involvement.

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Ugh! If there is one thing I have truly come to hate in these forums it is any post by Parla.  You are a troll and a waste of my time.

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To your dismay, "V", I am prolific too! I am also armed with enough sense of humour not to be offended but only on matters of substance or principle.

The most important thing: I don't hate music; on the contrary, I love and appreciate, to the highest degree, this form of Art. (Some people may have traced that...).

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Parla, the only "facts" of this topic are that what you hate, dislike, love,etc. in the world of serious music are that it is just opinions, nothing else.  My opinion is that I do not like most modern music but others do, so what does this prove?  What I really do not understand is out of the works of thousands of composers, most people do not like any serious music at all.

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Ballet music by Chabrier. 

Come to think of it, any ballet music.

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Atonal wrote:

Ballet music by Chabrier. 

Come to think of it, any ballet music.

 

What, even The Rite of Spring?!

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...Or "Romeo and and Juliet" of Prokofiev along with some other magnificent scores for ballet (e.g. Cinderella) and the exciting ones of Shostakovich (The Bolt, The Age of Gold, etc,).

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What, even The Rite of Spring?!

Especially The Rite Of Spring. Why listen to that when you can listen to Symphony in C?

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...Or "Romeo and and Juliet" of Prokofiev along with some other magnificent scores for ballet (e.g. Cinderella) and the exciting ones of Shostakovich (The Bolt, The Age of Gold, etc,).

YAAAAAAAAWN!

In fact, Parla, I'd rather listen to Arvo Part's 7 Magnificat Antiphons which I am doing right now.

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Arvo Part's Antiphons...Oh,Oh,Oh...Fortunately, I'm going to sleep too!

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Atonal wrote:

Ballet music by Chabrier. 

Chabrier didn't write any ballet scores, as far as I know, though no doubt some of his music has been hijacked for ballets. He did though write a wonderful operetta called L'Etoile, which earns him a high place in my affections. Even his sub-Wagnerian opera Gwendoline isn't at all bad, while his 10 Pièces Pittoresques are not surpassed by any other piano work I know from the last couple of decades of the 19th century.

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guillame wrote:
Chabrier didn't write any ballet scores, as far as I know

You're probably right guillame.. I heard ballet music of his that, apparently, was written for an opera of his. I just cannot connect with ballet music at all (was being tongue in cheek re. Rite of Spring) esp. Nutcracker et al.

I thought I'd push some buttons, ha ha.

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Two observations, one already made by several posters - like so many words of this type, 'hate' has become diluted/devalued by writers/speakers attempting to make a case or establish a point.  Use with inverted commas might have indicated the lightness of touch/intended humour suggested by some posters, but hate should never be used as a synonym for 'dislike': it merely shows a poor appreciation of the shades of meaning that English, with its rich vocabulary, offers to writers.

It is true that there was a tendency of some composers to mark time or dispense some rather second rate ideas in parts of their ballet scores - even Swan Lake has its longeurs.  And quite a few composers, perhaps conscious of this, prepared concert suites which offered the best music.  I suspect that for every individual hearing the complete Swan Lake today, there will be upward of ten playing the suite.  However, a dismissal of ballet music as a genre would in any caser to leave a lot of modern ballet - Checkmate, Adam Zero, Horoscope before the war, Malcolm Arnold, Stravinsky's Agon, and most recently the ballets of Patrick Feeney - ouside the pale.

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I give up on this non- educational topic.  I say so what if you hate certain composers.  Who cares.  Many people hate or dislike all classical music.  How to help them recover from this illness would be an interesting topic.  Thank God for the Internet since it is becoming the only place for buying CDs, etc here in the United States against classical music.