Lesser Known Composers

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I have noticed that Neeme Jarvi has done a lot with lesser known composers on BIS Label.

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Micos69 mentioned "Karlowicz (Symphonic Poems on Naxos)".

I would also suggest his violin concerto particularly as it has been recorded by Britain's two top current fiddlers, Nigel Kennedy & Tasmin Little. Not quite Mendelssohn or Bruch 1, but  very listenable in good romantic tradition. I just prefer Little, marginally more passionate, with better orchestral support and better recorded (by I think her husband!).

Geoffrey Simon refers to Respighi's Brazilian Impressions

Thanks for reminding me, I hadn't played my recording of it for years, beautiful orchestration (but perhaps little else?). The other side of the LP though, "The Birds" does gets a regular outing (Dorati/LSO). Another example of how superb were the late 50s early 60s LSO with fabulous solos from their principals. It was said they hated Dorati but they did play superbly on his Mercury recordings. 

Finally for the first (?) true use of Latin American rhythms in "classical" music I would suggest Gottschalk's  "A night in the tropics" (Maurice Abravanel/UtahSO on the Vanguard label.

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@33lp I love that Abravanel Gottschalk performance. But it's so lushly orchestrated, how much of it is Gottschalk and how much of it the "reconstruction". It's from 1859, did he really intend it to sound like this?

A friend of mine has a very interesting 1901 (!) record, where Sousa's band plays Gottschalk's Pasquinade op 59 in an arrangement by Arthur Pryor. He sent me the rough transcription, and I processed the sound further. We are so used to "swing" and latin sounds, that I think the result in 1859 would have been much closer to that record, than to Abravanel's recording. Here is the 1901 record:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRWLzaMh8sw&hd=1

 

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Thanks for that Rolf, it's a good transfer! I took a look at  the sleeve notes of the Vanguard recording which do indicate that Gottschalk didn't leave much in the way of orchestrations and when he came to give a performance he took whatever bands or orchestras were available. The Grand Tarantelle for piano & orchestra (rather in the Saint Saens or Littolf scherzo style) appears to be a complete reconstruction with no original orchestral parts known but is a delightful piece; great fun. My old LP couples the two orchestral items with solo works by Eugene List but some years ago I managed to obtain a limited edition Analog Productions 180g LP made from the original 3 track master with all valve (tube) equipment which sounds superb and couples the orchestral items with Morton Gould's Latin American Symphonette.

Now I must look out my Gottschalk Vox Box which includes a talk by Eugene List on the composer, which I've completely forgotten!

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I'm not a big CM expert but three compsoers who I dont see in the Gramaphone and Penguin guides but who i like a lot are Franz Von Suppe, Franz Schmidt and Emile Von Reznicek. Seems the only Suppe played on the radio are three of his overtures but in the Marco Polo series there are 6 volumes. All well recommended. As are Franz Schmidt's 4 symphs on Naxos and Reznicek's tone poems Schlemihl and Der Sieger.

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I recommend Suppe's Requiem.

Remarkably, it pre-dates Verdi's.

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For those who are not yet familiar with Swedish composers, other than Franz Berwald, who is a favourite of mine, Naxos has produced an interesting CD called SWEDISH ORCHESTRAL FAVOURITES, featuring works by:

August Söderman

Wilhelm Stenhammar

Laes-Erik Larsson

Wilhelm Pettersson-Berger

Dag Wirén

Hugo Alfvén

All these composers (except perhaps Söderman) are household names in Sweden but less well-known outside (the Swedes have an expression for this: vârldsberömd i Sverige = worlf-famous in Sweden).

 

 

 

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What would go down well at the Proms?

I cite the following:

Arnold: Cornish Dances and Symphony No.9;

Bantock: Pagan Symphony;

Stenhammar's two piano concertos and the 2nd Symphony;

Raff: Symphony No. 3 and/or 4;

Simpson: Symphony No. 4 and/or 9;

Massenet: any of his orchestral suites;

Any symphony by Magnard, Martinu, Honegger, Schmidt, Ries and the other 4 symphonies by Saint-Saens for a change!

Many of the above do not last longer than an hour, most around the half-hour mark. Ideal Proms fodder!

I could go on and probably will, if given enough encouragement.

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Continued from 'Liszt 200'.

Ignaz Pleyel...'Mozart thought that Pleyel might one day become a new Haydn.  So did Pleyel, apparently, which perhaps explains his relative lack of originality'.  Greene's Biographical

I would probably not consider a CD purchase because of this, however, Spotify have:

Ignaz Pleyel/Symphnonies/Zurich Chamber Orchestra/CPO

which I've added to my playlist list because I like symphonies.

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Thanks for getting back on track Kev, there should be a few things here to keep you going for a while!

For those interested in 20th century British music I would add EJ Moeran with his sole symphony (although I see sketches for his second have been completed and recorded), 3 Rhapsodies (third for orch & piano, to all intents & purposes a piano concerto). Recordings are on Lyrita (Boult's version of the symphony gets a Penguin guide rossette) & Chandos.

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Unsung Composers

If anybody is interested and not aware, the 'Unsung Composers' forum is an excellent place to look for advice and exchanges regarding those who are more unsung than sung:

http://www.unsungcomposers.com/forum/index.php

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33lp wrote:

...For those interested in 20th century British music I would add EJ Moeran...

I'm not especially but Spotify have some historical recordings of Moeran which I will be investigating because I'm interested in the history of recorded sound too. 

'Moeran had a gift for melody' according to my Greene's Biographical - my sort of composer in fact.  It looks like I will be buying CDs too.

An attention catching website too Naupilus.  Thanks gents.

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Just a quick update to my listening experiment - Alkan/Urspruch/Busoni - I've decided to modify it a little after re-reading 33lp's remarks of thu15dec11 under  'Liszt 200':

a) Set aside 70 minutes to listen at home to the Busoni Piano Concerto - do not move for the whole 70 minutes - do not eat or drink - switch off the mobile phone - do it while my wife is out.  I'll then let you know if it's too long.

b) Listen to the Fantasia Contrappuntistica.

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p.s. My Naxos A-Z of Pianists has arrived - it includes Busoni playing Bach and more on the website.  This is a real find.

(If you saw my earlier comments about Columbia recordings, please ignore them.  Sorry, I was getting carried away with excitement).

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The Busoni Piano Concerto is too long by about an hour.