Listening Fatigue

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RE: Listening Fatigue

parla wrote:

 

I guess I simply have to pass over this "road democratising access to all music genres". A discussion on this might open (once more) the ominous Pandora's box.

 

 

It might indeed.  But there's a wealth of material in there to be explored further if anyone felt inclined to open it.  I'm up for it if anyone is interested, but you could stay out of it if you wanted to.  (But then, both of us operate on the maxim qui tacet consentire, don't we Parla?)

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Not necessarily, Vic, but, let's simply implement the "tacet" part.

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How interesting you should use these three composers as your examples! Having "lived" with them since, I suppose, the mid-60s, (Norman del Mar/LSO at the RFH in Mahler's 3rd  - 1965........SNA/Gibson in Sibelius.....Ormandy in Shostakovich's 4th etc)......it is Sibelius I return to with pure delight. 

I cringe to think how much money I spent over nearly 5 decades, on LPs, CDs, biographies, concerts, DVDs etc where Dmitri and Gustav are concerned!!  Age?  Perhaps Sibelius speaks more lastingly to us as we approach a certain age, I don't know.

A reviewer on Amazon, speaking I think of a new recording of Mahler's 6th, postulated what he himself suggested was a heretical idea.  Namely, how would we react to some of Mahlers symphonies, were they to come to us as "new works", unheard before, but shorn of certain middle movements.  I think he was suggesting that the 6th, for example, might be mightily original if it had only the first and last movements....with maybe a 5 minute pause between the two.   And the 3rd?? The 7th?  An interesting conjecture which I found not in the least heretical.  A fascinating idea, which we know we cannot put to the test.

Having loved ALL of Mahler, for many years, unreservedly, he confessed to starting to feel a little tired of certain movements.  That would be a major confession for most of us, but I have a certain sympathy with his thoughts.

Perhaps Sibelius symphonies "hang together" as entities in a superior way.

I suspect the late Sir Colin might have felt that!

 

 

 

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parla wrote:

P.S.: Jane, I was "misfortunate" before I worked with and for them. Unfortunately, it will take some time (some more generations lost), till they become what they deserve to be.

I'm reminded of that old ad for a driving school that shows a driver behaving like an idiot, generating several near-accidents in the space of a minute. As she pulls over, a voice-over says "She's now about to do something worse," and she swaps seats with her daughter to teach her driving. The characteristics of Parla are being passed on to the Chinese as we speak ............................

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Funny, Tagalie. I'm not even in China, as we speak, but, most importantly, Chinese can easily pass their characteristics to others (at least in their own country) rather than the other way round. However, I like the way you're thinking...

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I'm not even in China, as we speak,

Parla

Heavens, have they booted you out already?

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I still like they way you express yourself, Tagalie. If it can possibly be to your interest, I can go there anytime I wish or I had to (my wife is Chinese), but we have to agree this is not the subject of this forum.

However, the "egg" has some interesting schedule for the next few months for anyone who might be there. Li Yundi made a new CD with 3 interestingly refined mainstream Piano Sonatas by Beethoven (on DG), by the way.

Parla