Love in Classical Music
After "Humour" and "Death", maybe it's time to explore where, how and in which ways Love has been served in Classical Music.
Love has always been the great motivation, major inspiration or the outcome to be served not only by Music but by Art, in general. It is a common observation to note that, in popular music, Love is maybe the only source of inspiration and the only topic to sing about. The issue in this possible thread is not only the obvious works of Classical Music, where love is the evident either object or subject (Romeo and Juliet, Tristan und Isolde, Carmen and many more), but where we may trace, in a subjective or even more objective (if evidence can be presented) way, love as a hidden motivation, ispiration or the object to serve and praise.
Some scholars, experts and musicians claimed that behind the most sacred works or the most abstract chamber works Bach wrote, his love for his wife Anna Magdalena was the motivation and even the inspiration to make him so emotional and powerful in expression (e.g. the famous aria Erbarme dich from Matthaus Passion, or the first movement of his Violin/Harpsichord Sonata in b minor).
So, it would be interesting, intriguing and possibly leading to some unexpected discoveries, if we share our thoughts of Love obvious or hidden in classical works of any - famous or not - composer.
Let's see...(how you see it
Parla
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Love and Death and Humour! The Holy Trinity of Post-Modernism, and Parla I never had you down as a post-modernist! A post-classicist maybe!
Interesting topic Parla to post-up for discussion. What springs to my mind instantly, are the two string quartets by Janacek. Both very powerful and passionate, and centered on strong, 'illicit' passions.
No.1 The Kreutzer Sonata based on a story by Tolstoy, ( in which, if I remember rightly, the husband eventually kills his wife through jealousy?)and no. 2 'Intimate Letters' inspired by the composer's 'friendship' with a much younger woman. The title allegedly comes from the fact that they did, indeed, exchange letters together of a character that would merit a print run for ages now in one of today's tabloids.
Though it is a while since I heard them, as I say, both deeply passionate works, where you can 'feel' the obvious passion.
(I also find it interesting that composers sometimes use this medium of the string quartet for 'personals'. I think there are general views that Beethoven and Shostakovitch wrote some of their most personal, brooding, inward-looking music in the string quartet form.)
Regards
Mark
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Parla
'Love' is such a big word, with many meanings. What catagories of love are you highlighting? There is of course love for another person (which can take many forms from affectionate, passionate, romantic, platonic all the way to unrequainted etc.). Then there is love of a place,nature, of a time or of a memory. The is also love of nation or homeland...
I don't doubt that various forms of love have been great motivations for all composers. Britten's love for Peter Pears not only led him to cretae numerous song cycles but also determined a great deal of his vocal writing in operas - it is entirely possible that had Pears been a bass rather than a tenor we would have seen a very different 'Peter Grimes'.
There are so many numerous dedications to love in music that it would impossible to create a full list; in Mahler alone there is the final movement of the third, the 'Alma' theme in the 6th and Kintotenlieder, with its reflection on love and loss. Schumann's love for Clara was a clear inspiration (and almost as clear for Brahms).
While I am not musicologist I was promoted by something you wrote to spend part of last night reading about the B minor key. In particular I was ready on Wikipedia about how musical theorists of the past often ascribed qualities to certain keys. To quote:
'In Baroque times, B minor was regarded as the key of passive suffering. The theorist Christian Friedrich Daniel Schubart... regarded B minor as a key expressing a quiet acceptance of fate and very gentle complaint, something commentators find to be in line with Bach's use of the key in the St. John Passion. By Beethoven's time, however, the perception of B minor had changed considerably: Francesco Galeazzi wrote that B minor was not suitable for music in good taste, and Beethoven labelled a B minor melodic idea in one of his sketchbooks as a "black key". In relation to the Baroque interpretation of the scale, the B minor chord also has a very melancholic and grieving feel to it, giving the feeling of suffering and gentle complaint.' (Wikipedia, 2012)
(Afer reading this I wondered if this might be the reason Beethoven wrote so little in B minor and if Liszt chose the key simply because he wanted to avoid keys already used by his hero in the piano sonatas.)
I wonder if there is any keys have been associated with love (in any of its forms)?
Naupilus
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That's encouraging. Four replies in few hours!
78RPM, your examples make good sense. If you elaborate them a bit further, it will be more revealing to me (and to us).
Mark, the three notions are primarily the key features of Classical Music from the outset (see Monteverdi and onwards, Gluck, Haydn, Mozart and so on). So, I guess I am simply a post Renaissance disciple. I found the Janacec's two String Quartets very passionate, not necessarily dealing with love, but driven by certain dangerous aspects of it. I can generally agree that the String Quartet is the medium for most of the Classical composers to be more "personal", but, not necessarily for love. In Beethoven, I may trace at least a great passion, but for Shostakovich, it's a bit obscure whether love is mostly there. However, I would love to have some more examples of works in this form that betray some aspects of love.
Naupilus, "Love" is such a big word, but, normally, I mean this driving force that changes, at a certain time, the course of our thoughts, our feelings, our perceptions and, eventually our...life! Your examples of Britten, Mahler and Schumann are quite clear and enlightening.
As for b minor, I have to remind you of the Great Mass of the Great Bach, a quite assertive and dominant work, nothing about "quiet acceptance" or "gentle complaint". Besides, J.S. wrote a magnificent Sonata for Violin and Harpsichord in the same key, where Love, Passion and a disguised form of joy are present rather than any kind of "passive suffering". Haydn used it in some of his String Quartets with wit and sense of humour. Beethoven used it for some "minor" or less known works (Bagatelles, etc.) and in the slow movement of his Violin Concerto (b minor is the relative minor of D major). Later on, Schubert used it in his "Unfinished" Symphony, Tchaikovsky for his "Pathetique" and Dvorak for his monumental Cello Concerto. So, it's not such a "black key" after all!
Thank you all for a very promising start.
Parla
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Naupilus, I forgot to reply to your last question.
I cannot find any key directly related to love in general. I believe, in capable hands, almost all can serve certain aspects of love. However, G major is considered as the "happiest" of all; so, I guess for the joy of Love could work very well, while g minor is the most ominous and gloomiest of all (the key of death for some scholars and experts). So, g minor could serve to express the pains and despair of unrequited or lost love. To some extent, the same could apply to the key of D (the major a very positive, strong, optimistic one, the minor a very dramatic and passionate one). For more romantic purposes, the key of A is very suitable (the major is very radiant, while the minor is all about tenderness, refined passion and love through pain).
I hope it might help.
Parla
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Interesting topic Parla to post-up for discussion. What springs to my mind instantly, are the two string quartets by Janacek. Both very powerful and passionate, and centered on strong, 'illicit' passions.
Mark
It is probably more than 10 years since I read the essay but Milan Kundera (he of 'The Unbearable Lightness of Being' wrote an essay about the Janacek string quartets that is great reading. Maybe if you are in a bookshop you can scout a copy. For Kundera the quartets are the composer's greatest works.
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I will stray a little from your topic to offer another observation on the B minor post.
I was researching the B minor key in the context of the Liszt and Chopin piano sonatas, which I decided to pair on my ipod this week (together with some late Liszt and the Scriabin 'Black Mass' sonata). I should state at this point that most of the links are are the encouragement of a video by Pierre-Laurant Aimard, who puts everything but the Chopin in the first recital of his 'Liszt Project' disc. To be fair I don't hear (and as a non-musician I have to rely on my ears, which is a deficiency I probably will not be able to overcome!) suffering in the Liszt, but certainly a tenderness (which is the section that I feel works best in Aimard's recording).
Back to love. I am not sure I understand your definition but that should not get in the way! Returning to Britten Billy Budd is a work that deals with the subject of love in a very interesting way. What sort of love is present in this work, between Billy and Vere? When Vere delivers the news to Billy that he must die for the murder of Claggert it is not the damning condemnation of many operas but instead something tender, resigned almost. It is a touching moment in an opera that is, to me, Britten's greatest (and I include Peter Grimes in that). Of course it helps to have a librettist who is also a great stylist in their own right, but Britten created music of huge depth.
Another type of love seems on display to me in Verdi's Don Carlos, in the supreme duet for Rodrigo and Carlos. It works so well in the context of the opera when compared to the other relationships. Again, some of the credit ust go to Schiller I suspect.
My absolute favourite example of parental love has to be Wotan's Farewell as he casts a ring of fire around his daughter. In the Ring are there are so many peaks and emotive moments but I think this is the one that most often strikes home. Wagner plays with the leitmotifs so brilliantly and I always hear that first glimsp of a motif that will only appear again in the last moments of the whole work. Again this is just my ears telling me and I could well be wrong!
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I will stray a little from your topic to offer another observation on the B minor post.
I was researching the B minor key in the context of the Liszt and Chopin piano sonatas, which I decided to pair on my ipod this week (together with some late Liszt and the Scriabin 'Black Mass' sonata). I should state at this point that most of the links are are the encouragement of a video by Pierre-Laurant Aimard, who puts everything but the Chopin in the first recital of his 'Liszt Project' disc. To be fair I don't hear (and as a non-musician I have to rely on my ears, which is a deficiency I probably will not be able to overcome!) suffering in the Liszt, but certainly a tenderness (which is the section that I feel works best in Aimard's recording).
Back to love. I am not sure I understand your definition but that should not get in the way! Returning to Britten Billy Budd is a work that deals with the subject of love in a very interesting way. What sort of love is present in this work, between Billy and Vere? When Vere delivers the news to Billy that he must die for the murder of Claggert it is not the damning condemnation of many operas but instead something tender, resigned almost. It is a touching moment in an opera that is, to me, Britten's greatest (and I include Peter Grimes in that). Of course it helps to have a librettist who is also a great stylist in their own right, but Britten created music of huge depth.
Another type of love seems on display to me in Verdi's Don Carlos, in the supreme duet for Rodrigo and Carlos. It works so well in the context of the opera when compared to the other relationships. Again, some of the credit ust go to Schiller I suspect.
My absolute favourite example of parental love has to be Wotan's Farewell as he casts a ring of fire around his daughter. In the Ring are there are so many peaks and emotive moments but I think this is the one that most often strikes home. Wagner plays with the leitmotifs so brilliantly and I always hear that first glimsp of a motif that will only appear again in the last moments of the whole work. Again this is just my ears telling me and I could well be wrong!
Naupilus
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Sorry Parla, I didn't mean to be so concise: I just thought it was well known facts in cm history. However, if my memory of past readings serves me well (and w/ a little help from Wikipedia), let me add this:
Berlio'z Fantastique: The composer, after attending a performance of Shakespeare's Hamlet in Paris, fell in love w/ the irish actress Harriet Smithson who played the role of Ophelia. He sent her several letters, all unanswered, so he wrote the symphony to show his love for her... She listened the symphony only 5 years later. They married afterwards.
Brahm's Rhapsody for Alto: Brahms, who was then in love for Schumman's daughter, is said to have written this work after knowing that the mother Clara had promissed her daughter's hand to another gentleman. Apparently, Brahms did not want that the work to be published claiming that it was too personal. Only after a long while he had second thoughts about it. That probably explains why this Rhapsody is so heavy and intense.
Bruckner's 4th: the composer
himself gave the epithet 'Romantic' to this symphony ( and to this
only) and he had a program in mind for each mouvement as registered in some of his letters. As a matter of fact, it
deals with a kind of medieval romance.
Mahler's 5th's Adagietto: Used by Visconti's Death in Venice film, this piece is considered to be written to his wife Alma (finished and performed before the whole symphony). Just read this: "...Alma Mahler informed
Mengelberg in a letter that the Adagietto was in fact a love-song that Gustav Mahler
composed for her. In the letter Alma wrote
the words of Mahlers moving small poem and Mengelberg wrote the whole story and
the poem in his score.
Thus the Adagietto-melody is a 'song with words'".
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...and after that, she developed a serious drink problem when her career faltered, at which point Berlioz took a mistress and divorced Smithson. Not a great ending to a love story.
In any case, the symphonie has very little to do with love (Berlioz hadn't even met her when he wrote it) and everything to do with obsession. And a fairly irrational and destructive obsession at that.
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In any case, the symphonie has very little to do with love (Berlioz hadn't even met her when he wrote it) and everything to do with obsession. And a fairly irrational and destructive obsession at that.
A whole thesis could be written on the difference between love and obsession. One is often mistaken for the other.
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Naupilus, I appreciate your examples of the different aspects of Love you can trace in Billy Bud, in Don Carlos and in Wagner's Ring. I found them all pertinent. Particularly, Wagner was so eloquent in expressing all these nuances and multiple facets of Love, in every single work and almost in every single passage, sometimes so obviously (Tristan), sometimes so subtly (Parsifal), sometimes so passionately (Tannhauser) and so on. As an example of the glorification of the love extraordinaire, one has simply to listen to the first Act of Die Walkure.
Thanks a lot for the further explanations, 78RPM. I found them enlightening, if not all convincing. I have some reservations for Bruckner's Fourth, because of his solemn way of developing his musical language and the heavy orcheatration, which does not help any sort of depiction of "medieval romance".
As for Berlioz and his "Fantastique", love or obsession, who cares? The work is passionate enough to reveal a great deal of different aspects of Love, sometimes in a very eloquent way (second movement, in particular).
Thanks again to all of you for some very pertinent and enlightening comments and relevant information.
Parla
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Naupilus, I appreciate your examples of the different aspects of Love you can trace in Billy Bud, in Don Carlos and in Wagner's Ring. I found them all pertinent. Particularly, Wagner was so eloquent in expressing all these nuances and multiple facets of Love, in every single work and almost in every single passage, sometimes so obviously (Tristan), sometimes so subtly (Parsifal), sometimes so passionately (Tannhauser) and so on. As an example of the glorification of the love extraordinaire, one has simply to listen to the first Act of Die Walkure.
Thanks a lot for the further explanations, 78RPM. I found them enlightening, if not all convincing. I have some reservations for Bruckner's Fourth, because of his solemn way of developing his musical language and the heavy orchestration, which does not help any sort of depiction of "medieval romance".
As for Berlioz and his "Fantastique", love or obsession, who cares? The work is passionate enough to reveal a great deal of different aspects of Love, sometimes in a very eloquent way (second movement, in particular).
Thanks again to all of you for some very pertinent and enlightening comments and relevant information.
Parla
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'A Major: In Christian Schubart's Thoughts on Musical Aesthetics of 1806, this key gets the most elaborate CV. It's just the ticket for 'declarations of innocent love, satisfaction with one's state of affairs; hope of seeing one's beloved again when parting; youthfulness and trust in God.' BBC Music mag November 2010
'After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music'.
Aldous Huxley brainyquote.com
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Naupilus
Thanks for that recommendation re: Kundera. I do quite like his work, and have read a couple of his shorter fictions - Slowness is a really good novel.
And you've reminded me of that fantastic piano work by Schumann - Kreisleriana - op. 16 - written when he'd fallen madly for Clara I believe.
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That's what comes to mind now Parla:
Bruckner is said to admit a love program in his 4th symphony....
In a dramatic way, Brahms' Rhapsody for alto, if I mistake not, is related to an unrequited love ......
There is at least one of Berlioz's works related to his love for that irish actress, "Fantastique" included...........
Mahler's 5th symphony's adagietto is a love declaration for his Alma, isn't it?.....
And so forth....