New Music.
Composers, new or otherwise, are subject to the vagaries of fashion. Ligeti is a great example. He was all the rage after Kubrick used some of his music in the film 2001, dropped out of sight for a while and seems to be now on his second wind.
Tagalie,
I am not sure I would agree with you regarding Ligeti and 'fashion'. While Kubrick's use of his music in 2002 was a high point in his fame outside of the contemporary scene he certainly has never been hard to find in the concert hall. Works such as the solo cello sonata and the Horn Trio appear pretty regularly and I don't think his reputation as at any point taken a dip. If my memory serves tere have been at least two celebrations of his work in the last ten years in the UK and even 'Le Grande Macabre' got an outing at ENO. Personally I think he is one of the outstanding composers of the last fifty years - playful, bold and imaginative. His music also holds up incredibly well on disc - much better say that Stockhausen, who requires a 'live' concert really to grab the attention and convey the depth of a work such as Gruppen. Apart from Stockhausen's piano pieces I am trying to think of any piano work as significant as Ligeti's series of Etudes for Piano - Boulez's piano sonatas have never struck me as half as interesting as his orchestral pieces.
However, I am willing to be proven wrong! What other piano pieces of the last 40 years match Ligeti?
Oh... I completely forgot Messiaen. That says something both about my memory and maybe that the works have not caught my attention yet.
Naupilus
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First, I just want to acknowledge those who welcomed me to the forum - nice touch, and appreciated.
Gloria Coates was a real find for me. I hope more recordings follow those already on Naxos. For those who are unfamiliar with this sound world, I can't say her music sounds like composer ZZZ, because it doesn't. Gloria Coates is unique.
I will search out the Brian thread. Thanks for the tip.
I could also mention Hovhaness, who has also been ignored here. I was an avid collector of his music when it was available on vynil on the (xxxxx label - help! the covers were white with a line drawing). I sold all my vynil!
For me, his best work - not that I know them all - is Fra Angelico. There is a recording of him (Hovhaness) conducting the RPO.
And why has no one mentioned Robert Simpson? Surely, one of the greatest symphonists of the 20th C?
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The great thing about Gloria Coates' music is that on one level she has no idea how good she is. There's no desperate attempt to be original, or contrive something weighty to say. Her music just is.
Similiarly check out: http://jessicapavone.com/
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Tell me about the Welsh boyz - Hoddinot and Matthias! I've yet to explore.
Mark,
there is a good disc of Mathias concertos (Clarinet Op.68, Harp Op. 50 and Piano No.3 Op.40) released on the Lyrita label.
The recent recording of the 1st and 2nd Piano concertos on Somm is also very good (with Vaughan Williams Fantasy for Piano & Orchestra).
He is definitely worth exploring!
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Naupilus, I'm sure you're right. Ligeti's not been front and centre where I live but that doesn't mean much. You boys who are lucky enough (musically-speaking at least) to live in one of the great music hotbeds are better judges of what's happening. Which is why recorded music is so vital for the rest of us.
JAH, Simpson has indeed been discussed, quite frequently, on this thread. A poster I much miss, dubrob, used to run a composer of the week thread and Simpson was one subject. If you scroll back about a year you may find it.
Just to add to your comments on Mathias, Chris: he's very much a tonal, conservative composer, very tuneful and rhythmic. But a distinctive voice nevertheless. The harp concerto is a gem. It first appeared on a superbly-recorded Decca disc (vinyl), Osian Ellis the soloist, with the wonderfully-catchy and vital Dance Overture and a couple of other works. Probably transferred to cd at some point and hopefully Decca didn't dry-out the sound in the process.
Hoddinott is more 'modern', rather atonal but manages to engage the ear. Slightly mystical music with big gestures. My favourite disc of his works, again vinyl, was an old Decca (like the Mathias, featuring the LSO conducted by Atherton) containing his Symphony 3, op.76 The Sun the Great Luminary of the Universe (see what I mean about grand gestures?), and Sinfonietta #3. It also featured one of my favourite record covers, back when covers meant something.
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An Armenian symphonist called Avet Terterian (the spelling varies) (1929-1994). His Symphony No. 3 is very exciting, with native pipes and pounding drums for the finale. The performance on Arte Nova is much better than the Tjeknavorian one on ASV, though that disc includes a fine version of Terterian's creepy Symphony No. 4.
He also wrote an opera called Earthquake, which apparently does just what it says on the tin.
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Terterian's 7th and 8th symphonies are available at Amazon UK, but at a price of £26.72.
Now, I bought the set of Simpson symphonies (7 cds) quite recently for under 40 pounds. I thought this was excellent value.
I no longer live in the UK. Is this kind of disparity in pricing normal?
I would love to try the Terterian, but not at that price. It can remain on my 'to do' list.
The disc mentioned above (3rd and 4th symphonies) is £16.95. Still expensive, in my opinion.
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I'm afraid Terterian is much more obscure than Simpson, hence the expense! I was only lucky to encounter him in a 2-CD set of music from the remote Soviet regions, which was going cheap (it also had music by Kancheli, Yusupov and Amirov), and then spotted the ASV CD in a bargain bin. I'm hoping that someone like Antoni Wit will start recording the cycle one day. But then I'm a dreamer....
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I'm afraid Terterian is much more obscure than Simpson, hence the expense! I was only lucky to encounter him in a 2-CD set of music from the remote Soviet regions, which was going cheap (it also had music by Kancheli, Yusupov and Amirov), and then spotted the ASV CD in a bargain bin. I'm hoping that someone like Antoni Wit will start recording the cycle one day. But then I'm a dreamer....
Ah, but dreams one day, can be reality the next, can't they, NAXOS?
I dream of recordings of Popov, Tischenko, Shchedrin, and other unjustly neglected Russians.
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Yes! So many interesting Russians. Much of Mosolov's later work hasn't been recorded. Supposedly he went downhill, but what I heard of his 7th (I think?) was enjoyable. Perhaps he just stopped being "modern" enough, but that's not necessarily what we listen to the Russians for.
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Atonal-
I hate to be adding to your list again, which like mine, is growing daily!
BUT your mention of Bowie has got me thinking:
I was a big fan of Bowie back in my teen years in the 70's (and still am).
Personally I rate very highly the 'Low and 'Heroes' albums - as one critic I saw somewhere recently on line said, the titles were meant to suggest the 'low' and the 'high' of popular culture. I never got that at the time!
But one of all-time favourite Bowie tracks has to be the haunting and atmospheric 'Warsawa' on the Low album. I know it was probably composed by Eno, which brings me on to:
A quick note on British 'experimental' music:
Eno, as I'm sure you know, did some interesting experiments from the time he was excommunicated from Roxy. On his OBSCURE label, he championed some experimental stuff including GAVIN BRYARS ('The Sinking of the Titanic') and one album which I rated by JOHN CAGE and JAN STEELE called 'Voices and Instruments'. Sadly I lent that album to a friend and never got it back.
The moral: never lend treasured recordings to others!
I still have though Eno's own DISCREET MUSIC on the Obscure label which is really background music AND Mychael Nyman's DECAY MUSIC which I also have on CD.
Decay music contains two experimental pieces - Bell Set no. 1 and 1-100.
1-100 is fascinating, being nothing other than a sequence of 100 chords!
Anyway, HOWARD SKEMPTON is usually classed as an experimental composer, and was a founder member of Cornelius Cardew's Scratch Orchestra. When Cardew went political, Skempton and others disagreed and diverged.
LENTO is available on CD single on Amazon, I think conducted by Mark Wigglesworth.
Best wishes
Mark