Radio 3's ludicrous favourite Mozart list

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Reported on this site's news. Loses much credibility by getting the Kochel number of the chosen piano concerto wrong (should be K488 not 491); but seriously suggests no symphony included in top ten, no neither 40 nor 41, nothing from Figaro, yet somehow manages to include Vesperae solennes de confessore, K339 – Laudate Dominum.

Do me a favour!

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pgraber wrote:

Reported on this site's news. Loses much credibility by getting the Kochel number of the chosen piano concerto wrong (should be K488 not 491)

The Köchel number for the Piano concerto on the R3 voting page seems correct

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/mozartvote/

it's only wrong on the Gramphone news item at

http://www.gramophone.co.uk/classical-music-news/bbc-radio-3-listeners-vote-for-their-mozart-top-ten

 

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... but seriously suggests no symphony included in top ten, no neither 40 nor 41, nothing from Figaro, yet somehow manages to include Vesperae solennes de confessore, K339 – Laudate Dominum.

Do me a favour!

I'm not sure who you think is at "fault" - it's a list of what listeners have chosen, after all, not a list of suggestions.

 

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This is simply a list of favourite pieces as suggested by Radio 3 listeners - no-one is suggesting that these are the 'best' pieces by Mozart.

The sole purpose of these end of year surveys is to provide entertainment - whether to alert someone for the first time to a piece of music which they might not know or to provoke discussions about what's been includced or excluded.

It's Christmas for heaven's sake - relax!

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Yes, you're probably right! It was the incorrect K number that started the process of putting my back up, and if that was Gramophone's fault, not the BBC's...

 

Still think it looks odd, but yes I will relax.

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Hello all,

Actually the concerto number and Köchel number on our list were both correct, it was the key that we had incorrect. To confirm, it is indeed K491, the C minor, No 24.

So, which of the ten works did/would you vote for then?

 

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The more you think about it, the harder it gets. At the end of the day, I tend  not to vote in these. There's a reason why I have more than one Mozart work in my CD collection.

It's good to see some chamber music in the selection.

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Martin Cullingford wrote:

Hello all,

Actually the concerto number and Köchel number on our list were both correct, it was the key that we had incorrect. To confirm, it is indeed K491, the C minor, No 24.

So, which of the ten works did/would you vote for then?

 

 

There wasn't - and still isn't - a concerto number listed on the Gramophone news page - had there been I'd have realised where the error lay. By the way, how do I type an umlaut - as in Kochel - into the forum? I realise this is probably quite simple - but I don't know.

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pgraber wrote:
By the way, how do I type an umlaut - as in Kochel - into the forum? I realise this is probably quite simple - but I don't know.

A simple option is to copy and paste an already umlauted - or otherwise diacritically marked - letter from elsewhere - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umlaut_(diacritic) is a good source of them.

Or you can insert one as you type by using 'keyboard codes' (variously referred to as ASCII, ANSI or ALT codes).

For example, holding down the ALT key whilst typing 0246 on the numeric keypad on your keyboard will produce ö (as I just did then).

The keyboard codes for various European characters are listed at http://usefulshortcuts.com/alt-codes/accents-alt-codes.php amongst many other places.

 

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Thanks, SpiderJon.