The worst record covers ever
Sat, Mar 10 2012, 7:08PM
#2
RE: The worst record covers ever
Morbid or sardonic humour to cover arrogance and self-belief over those we don't like or don't fit in... our perception of what should be said or done.
Well done!
(The problem with humour is always this difficult balance between being intelligent and keeping the good manners, without offending anybody).
Parla
Sun, Mar 11 2012, 12:10AM
#3
RE: The worst record covers ever
Indeed but it is like shooting them in a barrel. I know, being English, I should support fair play but...
I wonder if swatting mosquitoes at a picnic is a more appropriate analogy? They’re of limited intelligence, easy to squash, whine in your ear and generally contribute nothing but annoyance, but just keep coming and coming.
Indeed. Creatures of instinct with no intelligence. Whereas...
Sun, Mar 11 2012, 12:13AM
#4
RE: The worst record covers ever
Morbid or sardonic humour to cover arrogance and self-belief over those we don't like or don't fit in... our perception of what should be said or done.
Well done!
(The problem with humour is always this difficult balance between being intelligent and keeping the good manners, without offending anybody).
Parla
What are you saying: that you are offended?
By what, since you resolutely refuse to understand, or acknowledge, what is going on.
You are such a snob. Do you seriously think that you are better than some of us?
You do don't you?
And that is why you are forever setting yourself up to be knocked down.
Sun, Mar 11 2012, 3:30AM
#5
RE: The worst record covers ever
Morbid or sardonic humour to cover arrogance and self-belief over those we don't like or don't fit in... our perception of what should be said or done.
Well done!
(The problem with humour is always this difficult balance between being intelligent and keeping the good manners, without offending anybody).
Parla
Bzzzzzzzzz.................... It's back again.
Sun, Mar 11 2012, 12:23PM
#6
RE: The worst record covers ever
For sure, you' re back again. (But I won't call you it).
Troyen, I don't say I am offended. I just imply you may easily offend (anybody) thanks to an incontrollable humour (or what you perceive as your humour).
I really cannot comprehend why you have such an obsession with whom is better than somebody else in this forum. As anonymous as we are, we can't be "better" than somebody with no identity. So, who am I to be a snob? (I never felt anybody in this forum is "setting himself up to be knocked down"). I think you shoot shadows in the erebus!
Good luck!
Parla
Sun, Mar 11 2012, 6:06PM
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I really cannot comprehend why you have such an obsession with whom is better than somebody else in this forum. As anonymous as we are, we can't be "better" than somebody with no identity. So, who am I to be a snob? (I never felt anybody in this forum is "setting himself up to be knocked down"). I think you shoot shadows in the erebus!
Of all the ridiculous (and unintentionally hilarous) comments you've made on this forum, this really takes the biscuit.
Every post you make is steeped in snobbery and self-importance. Was it not you who have asserted that every piece of classical music is objectively better than any other? And when asked to justify your assertion, are incapabale of providing any logical argument other than to say 'because I say so'? (Or, another variation of the same thing, because your 'musician friends' say so.)
Isn't also you who make a habit of cutting and pasting whole chunks from Wikipedia and passing it off as your own?
Are you really so lacking in any self awareness not to recognise the utter snobbery and intellectual pretension in everything you say?
Sun, Mar 11 2012, 11:33PM
#8
RE: The worst record covers ever
The "utter snobbery" and "intellectual pretension" is in the eye of the beholder. I never claimed I am better than anyone in this forum. If you see it as such, it's your problem.
Suit yourself!
Mon, Mar 12 2012, 12:25AM
#9
RE: The worst record covers ever
The "utter snobbery" and "intellectual pretension" is in the eye of the beholder. I never claimed I am better than anyone in this forum. If you see it as such, it's your problem.
Suit yourself!
Time after time your every utterance on this forum comes under attack from so many people and yet you persist.
Have you no self-awareness whatsoever?
Please, when in a hole it is advisable to stop digging.
Mon, Mar 12 2012, 10:24AM
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The "utter snobbery" and "intellectual pretension" is in the eye of the beholder. I never claimed I am better than anyone in this forum. If you see it as such, it's your problem.
It is intellectually pretentious (literally so) to attempt to pass off a Wikipedia article as something which reflects your own knowledge. And that is no problem but yours.
And as for not claiming to be 'better' than anyone else, you do little else - if only you had the self awareness to recognise the fact.
At the moment, on another thread you have said to someone who expresses their views:
While your last sentence-paragraph make perfect sense, it would clarify the whole matter and could settle things, if you could state that all your assertions, pronouncements etc. you make about Baroque represent the cheap commodity of being your sole opinion and that's all.
In other words, when anyone but you expresses their views, it's merely a 'cheap commodity'.Whereas your own views have the objectivity of holy writ. Don't you spot the tiniest bit of self-aggrandisement there?
Mon, Mar 12 2012, 3:11PM
#11
RE: The worst record covers ever
So, another distracting saga about you, Graig, and Parla.
I don't have any problem of "reflecting my knowledge" in this forum and I don't think anybody else claims he's trying to present any information provided as "his". As anonymous as we are here, our identity is virtual. So are our posts. There is nobody out there to claim any originality in Classical Music literature with the name Parla or Tagalie or GraigM and so on. So, don't bother to discredit a shadow-messenger in a forum.
Besides, most of the time (when the subject has to do with musical issues), I state, almost repeatedly, that I pass a statement from various people who cannot possibly participate in this forum. If it has to do with performances, I express my opinion, which I never claimed it's more worthy than anybody else's.
The "example" you detached from my exchanges with Troyen, in a different thread, is interpreted as you deemed it necessary. Since I find it inappropriate to discuss my exchanges with another member, in this thread, I will simply make it as clear as possible that any opinion, including mine, is a "cheap commodity", since it represents only my view, without any musical justification. Opinions are cheap commodities, since those who agree with yours, they will never ask for your explanation and those who disagree, they will dismiss it, before you tried to defend it.
If I (or any other member) passes any information based on any musical experience, educational material and facts on Classical Music, then this should be treated as such, as information to be judged, evaluated, possibly discussed further, trying to identify points of common understanding, etc.
If I am allowed to suggest something, Craig: If you really wishes to improve the situation in this forum, try to focus on the substance of the message. Forget the messenger. He's not claiming anything from anybody in this forum. Let's try to be fair and respectful to each other.
Parla
Mon, Mar 12 2012, 3:26PM
#12
RE: The worst record covers ever
Troyen, I have been attacked not by "so many people", but by the "usual suspects" (if you like I can mention them: they are as many as the usual suspects in the homonymous film). I wonder if they have any self-awareness whatsoever about their role.
By the way, the vast majority probably finds their attacks (and my responses) either too boring (and they refrain) or too entertaining (once a member called it "excellent entertainment").
As for the "hole", I always felt we are all in the same field of an internet forum.
Parla
Mon, Mar 12 2012, 3:36PM
#13
RE: The worst record covers ever
Troyen, I have been attacked not by "so many people", but by the "usual suspects" (if you like I can mention them: they are as many as the usual suspects in the homonymous film). I wonder if they have any self-awareness whatsoever about their role.
By the way, the vast majority probably finds their attacks (and my responses) either too boring (and they refrain) or too entertaining (once a member called it "excellent entertainment").
As for the "hole", I always felt we are all in the same field of an internet forum.
Parla
The "excellent entertainment" was reading your increasingly futile threads as you struggled to crawl out of another hole you had either fell in or dug for yourself.
I am now beginning to wonder whether it is a lack of self-awareness or just a very thick skin that has proved impenetrable...so far.
May I suggest less parla and more comprehendra.
Mon, Mar 12 2012, 4:44PM
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I will simply make it as clear as possible that any opinion, including mine, is a "cheap commodity", since it represents only my view, without any musical justification. Opinions
Now you are changing your position entirely. You have previously stated that it is a matter of fact that every piece of classical music is superior to every piece of popular music (you must recall the Bridge Over Troubled Water debate?). You also said that every piece of classical music is superior to any example of jazz music (because classical music has a written score). Are you now retracting from that position?
Mon, Mar 12 2012, 6:33PM
#15
RE: The worst record covers ever
No, I'm not, Graig. I just repeat:
- When the debate has to do with subjects on music (including the "battle of genres"), I bring to the table messages, based on musical evidence (evidence based on the music-making process, structure of composition, etc.). They do not represent my view only and I clearly say so.
- If I have to comment on performances (since there is no common musical basis on the perfect one), I mostly refer to my preferences or appreciation, which, however, are my own perception and constitute the "cheap commodity" of my opinion.
I hope it is clear now.
Parla
Indeed but it is like shooting them in a barrel. I know, being English, I should support fair play but...
I wonder if swatting mosquitoes at a picnic is a more appropriate analogy? They’re of limited intelligence, easy to squash, whine in your ear and generally contribute nothing but annoyance, but just keep coming and coming.