EMI SACD releases
Thu, Mar 29 2012, 5:24PM
#2
RE: EMI SACD releases
A response to Troyen1's last barb to me: My friend? Just who do you think I am anyway? I have no friends on this forum and if they are all like you am I the lucky one. I try to post items that may be of interest to others, not derogatory comments on other contributors. How did my mention of Bruckner's 4th Symphony bother you so much? Oh I know, for some reason you don't like me. It's mutual.
Thu, Mar 29 2012, 7:03PM
#3
RE: EMI SACD releases
Incidentally, my daughter has ordered the Schuricht, she tells me, for my birthday and I, also, want a stack of Italian opera CDs but you've probably got the Schuricht and the opera CDs I want already.
Two questions, Troyen:
1) What opera sets are you after?
2) How do you manage to drop sufficient hints to your nearest and dearest? I've tried subtlety ("I should really like the following CDs, dear") but with conspicuous lack of success thus far.
Thu, Mar 29 2012, 11:44PM
#4
RE: EMI SACD releases
A response to Troyen1's last barb to me: My friend? Just who do you think I am anyway? I have no friends on this forum and if they are all like you am I the lucky one. I try to post items that may be of interest to others, not derogatory comments on other contributors. How did my mention of Bruckner's 4th Symphony bother you so much? Oh I know, for some reason you don't like me. It's mutual.
I have no interest on your views on Bruckner's 4th.
You said you were going.
It is as if you made your excuses and stayed.
As I recall, it was you who made a derogatory comment about my post on a particular subject you, clearly, had no knowledge of.
I put you straight and you have been sniping at me ever since.
May I suggest you listen to Celibidache's 4th.
It may take you some time which may be all for the best.
Fri, Mar 30 2012, 12:00AM
#5
RE: EMI SACD releases
Incidentally, my daughter has ordered the Schuricht, she tells me, for my birthday and I, also, want a stack of Italian opera CDs but you've probably got the Schuricht and the opera CDs I want already.
Two questions, Troyen:
1) What opera sets are you after?
2) How do you manage to drop sufficient hints to your nearest and dearest? I've tried subtlety ("I should really like the following CDs, dear") but with conspicuous lack of success thus far.
Year before last I started collecting the opera seria of Rossini and spent last year listening to them as often as I could.
I, to put it as best I can, acquired six sets, two of Otello and, finally, bought the last that I wanted fairly recently.
Last year I decided to pursue the works of Donizetti. I either bought or received as presents five sets all on the Opera Rara label (expensive, right!).
My daughters and partner ask for a list and where to buy them.
I know that the EMI SACD has been ordered and the birthday surprise will be whether they have been successful in ordering the rest.
Again they are Opera Rara sets, Pia de Tolemei and Maria di Rudenz (I daren't push my luck with another or more). No surprise, really, as OR are doing sterling work in this area with top class singers, orchestras and conductors who are not all British.
Fri, Mar 30 2012, 12:20AM
#6
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Troyen1: You have me mixed up with someone else you have insulted. I now have no interest in you or your comments. My condolences to your daughter, and Troyen2, 3, and 4 if they exist.
Fri, Mar 30 2012, 10:44AM
#7
RE: EMI SACD releases
Troyen1: You have me mixed up with someone else you have insulted. I now have no interest in you or your comments. My condolences to your daughter, and Troyen2, 3, and 4 if they exist.
Oh, that's it, insult my intelligence and my family.
And you are still here!
Amazing.
Fri, Mar 30 2012, 9:07PM
#8
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Surely the whole point of this thread is that EMI are to be congratulated on issuing SACD discs at a reasonable price - albeit historical performances of a classic nature. Prices on a sample on-line retailer's website are very reasonable and I would urge anyone interested in the music on offer [who could resist Debussy played by Gieseking, for example?] to order at least some of these discs.
Sat, Mar 31 2012, 12:19AM
#9
RE: EMI SACD releases
I already expect Mendelssohn/Schumann's Synphonies with Klemperer as well as Mozart's Last Six Symphonies with Klemperer too. I'm contemplating to purchase again, because of SACD, Beethoven's Triple and Brahms Violin Concerto plus Double Concerto (Oistrach, Richter, Rostropovich-Karajan/Szell).
I hope EMI has done the expected job and it can provide some desirable results.
Parla
Sat, Mar 31 2012, 1:20PM
#10
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I have a few SACDs, but only of music which demands spatial placements as a part of the composition.
Its all about the music.
Sun, Apr 1 2012, 7:26AM
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RE: EMI SACD releases
Yes it is all about the music, which is why SACD is such a great format, it offers great quality reproduction of performances. In my view though this not restricted to hearing what is right in front of you, but enjoying the ambience of the recording venue, as you would with any concert. So for me SACD is suitable for all music.
Sun, Apr 1 2012, 9:18AM
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Seconded, ChrisV.
However, we have to point out that there are not all the SACD recordings of the same quality, as 78RPM has rightly pointed out. So screening of the right recordings or of the transfer of old recordings to the format is advised.
Parla
Mon, Apr 2 2012, 3:34PM
#13
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I agree completely Parla.
I was thinking more of the notion of SACD only being suitable for more spatial music, as indicated in the previous post. As a supporter of multichannel, I much prefer it to stereo listening now. I agree that music that which uses all channels e.g. a choir in surround such as Tallis 40 part motet does benefit from surround, but for me all music benefits because of the ambience and warmth it provides. As you say the quality of the source is key though. But in addition the joy of hybrid SACD means that those who listen in stereo can also have a better listening experience because of the improved quality of sound that SACD offers. But I do hope that EMI will be releasing some multichannels SACDs of the 70s Quad discs.
Mon, Apr 2 2012, 10:28PM
#14
RE: EMI SACD releases
I'm listening too to the Stereo SACD version, since my high-end equipment would cost me a (big) fortune to transform it to a surround system.
The difference I have seen since the establishment of Krell Evolution 505 is quite substantive, particularly in very good transfers of older stereo recordings or the brand new DSD ones from labels like Exton, Pentatone, Praga, Channel, Ars Production, Tudor, Capriccio etc. The ambience, the dynamics and the closer feeling to live are very welcome and attractive features, worthy of this extra mile required for the necessary equipment and purchase of the respective SACDs.
Parla
Sun, Apr 15 2012, 9:33AM
#15
RE: EMI SACD releases
Good post, but why do you feel that they could make money from this? The Japanese market for classical music is much bigger than in the UK, and Universal (e.g. DG) have already tested the water with some hybrid disks, but now seem to have given up, presumably because it wasn't worth it?
Ted
Why do they feel they could make money from this? Maybe, because the new EMI SACD releases are the top selling classical items. Check out the top selling charts at MDT:
http://www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/category/Choice_Classical_Music_CDs_and_DVD...
The top 9 sellers are ALL EMI SACDs.
As for DG, they shot themselves in the foot. The old CD market is dwindling: the new growth is in either in quality (hi-rez SACD) or convenience (downloads). The hi-rez DG SACD releases have mostly sold out and often sell for over $100 today.
So, Bruckner and Karajan igniting new controversy. Vic and Troyen become the "proxies" of...some others to preach the truth against those who dare to say something different.
By the way, Karajan has changed his own views on anyhing he performed by the years like any great conductor. I just said that the particular version on DG has its strong and some at least less positive elements. I never praised Jochum, by the way, and I never claimed somebody else is better than Karajan. I just implied that some people might go for some less polished...Is that such a big deal?
Parla
Do you not read other's posts or not understand them or a combination of both?
I ask you questions and off you go again avoiding that which you cannot answer because you made up your assertions without any prior knowledge or, dare I say it, understanding.
However, for the sake of whatever I give you leave not to answer my questions and to view them as "rhetorical."
Incidentally, my daughter has ordered the Schuricht, she tells me, for my birthday and I, also, want a stack of Italian opera CDs but you've probably got the Schuricht and the opera CDs I want already.