How to find the best recordings
Don't forget Peter Katin.
Who, as I remember, got bad reviews from the British music hacks.
Actually, he was Chinese his name being Pe Ter Ka Tin.
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Lang Lang is 100% chinese and so is his name (despite it can easily be misleading, like the other one : Yo Yo Ma - the chinese name is simply Ma Yo Yo). However, he longed to become a "banana chinese" and, obviously, he managed to "achieve" it.
Going back to our entertaining piano interlude, what about the famoso Mitsuko Uchida (she was amazing, three years ago in Berlin, in an incredible "Hammerklavier")? And, most importantly, who is going to refer, ever, to all those "unsung heroes", who, either manage to make a couple (or in some occasions more) CDs, in obscure labels, or none? It's perfectly O.K. to seek for the secure big names in the business, but, thank your lucky stars, there is plenty of greatness out there (both in an enormous discography or in live concerts) that wait for you...
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Lang Lang 100% Chinese? No! Another belief shattered on the hard rock of the truth.
You should have seen and heard Benjamin Grosvenor's Prom debut. He held this huge audience in the palm of his hand and his Cziffra encore was simply phenomenal.
Clearly, he is lined up ready to join the greats; Hough, Shelley, Lewis and Osborne.
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Which is the "hard rock of truth" about Lang Lang that is news to me? You see, Troyen1, I'm married to a chinese for more than ten years, Beijing is my second hometown and it is not my "belief", but the facts I know about the man.
His name is composed by two different chinese characters : His family name is Lang (in the third tone in mandarin - the descending and ascending one) and the given name is another character which sounds the same (Lang), but in the second tone - the ascending one (so, his name is like a word game). He was born in Shenyang, the second most important city of the Liaoning Province (in Northeast China) and he belongs to the minority ethnic group of Manchu. His father used to be a rather famous player of erhu (the two-string type of violin in the chinese folk music) and his name is Lang Guoren. He grew up in China and, as an adolescent, he started his international quest, going in and out of the country. If, in the meantime, he managed to get some foreign nationalities (which means he denounced his chinese one, since China does not allow double nationality), that confirms what is called here, a "banana chinese".
As for his artistry, he has a phenomenal technic, he is immensely telented and he is gifted with a charisma to be likable. However, the man care less about the rest and he let his great talent to go astray, possibly for the big bucks. So, he has adopted this pop persona of the larger than life artist, who does anything for publicity at the detriment of the music he is supposed to serve. I saw him live in Berlin several times, when I lived there (2003-2008), and he never convinced me for what he played (even Rachmaninov's third). Of course, he could dazzle the audience and carried it away. Some of his recordings, though, sound better, mainly because of the excellent production values.
However, if you put L.L. along with the pianists you mention as "greats", then I should not disagree; all of them are halfway through towards... greatness (all four very consistent, good musiciens, but still they need some time towards the poetry, the great spirit and eventually the authority).
As for the joke for Peter Katin, since you don't know chinese, You simply become funny, not the joke! There are no chinese names with four characters (except very very few) and there are no chinese characters who sound as Pe or Ter or Tin. The Ka exists. Bt the way, the full name of the pianist is Peter Roy Katin and I believe he is still around (he lives, I think, in Bexhill-on-Sea and, probably, does not visit the Grammophone's Forums).
Let's see when this pianistic interlude is going to finish (we have intruded into the wrong topic and we pay a very long visit).
Parla
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Oops, nearly dropped off there for a minute.
Perhaps Pe is Korean?
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Since the conversation has taken us to that part of the globe, how about the Vietnamese pianist Dang Thai Son ?
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I heard of, I have some CDs but I don't know him that much. Most probably, he is another "unsung hero" of the region. Have you ever heard of a japanese pianist named Kyoko Tabe?
The whole thing looks like a carousel! It's entertaining, though.
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Wot no Kun Woo Paik? Pretty fine set of Prokofiev concertos.
I'd love to hear a Shanghai radio announcement of a Wigglesworth concert.
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I haven't heard of Kyoko Tabe, from the name a female pianist, I guess. Famous Japanese classical pianists are in very short supply - I can think only of Minoru Nojima and Noriko Ogawa - and it would be good to have more of them. By contrast, the French come very strongly in the field, from the veteran Jean-Philippe Collard to the very young Lise de la Salle, and going through Pierre-Laurent Aimard, Jean-Yves Thibaudet, Jean-Eflam Bavouzet and Helène Grimaud. An impressive roster indeed.
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...and the more you look around the globe, the more you find anywhere.
By the way, Kyoko Tabe is a brilliant female pianist, who got away, except Japan and some neighbouring countries. Unfortunately, almost all of her recordings can be found in japanese labels. The german tiny label Solo Musica has reproduced arecording of hers with the Carmina Quartet of the "Trout " and the Piano Quintet of Schumann. A wonderful disc indeed!
The french do not impress me, but they are very fine musiciens too. Grimaud is closer to my taste.
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If we finish the piano interlude, shall we jump in the violinists, violists or cellists (or even double bass players, ooh)? Unless you may opt for woodwind or brass players (trombone is my favourite, but trumpet gives the true excitement).
Any preference or idea?
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If we finish the piano interlude, shall we jump in the violinists, violists or cellists (or even double bass players, ooh)? Unless you may opt for woodwind or brass players (trombone is my favourite, but trumpet gives the true excitement).
Any preference or idea?
Parla
Why don't you give us a starter?
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If I have to choose a starter, I think I will neeed a good loud and clear drum roll, which means we have to start with the percussionists! I'm afraid we will stop without the...main course.
So, let's go directly there. First things, first. So, the violinists, please.
I think in the violin subject there is plenty of..."meat", so that you may not even need any suggestion with whom or where to start.
So, who wishes to get in?
Parla
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If I have to choose a starter, I think I will neeed a good loud and clear drum roll, which means we have to start with the percussionists! I'm afraid we will stop without the...main course.
So, let's go directly there. First things, first. So, the violinists, please.
I think in the violin subject there is plenty of..."meat", so that you may not even need any suggestion with whom or where to start.
So, who wishes to get in?
Parla
I haven't a clue as to what you are on about.
Where can I find these piano interludes. I've searched all over the web. Who wrote them and when? Can I find them on Amazon if they have been recorded?
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I think, Troyen1, were in the joke. The"piano interlude" was our exchanges (quite extensive) on all kind of pianists of today and so forth in a topic about "where to find the best recordings". So, if we have to continue in this way, maybe, we could exhaust all kind of soloists in every possible instrument.
So, if anybody wishes to start defending Oistrach or Steinbacher (from the new generation), fine. If not, let's call the whole thing off. In any case, with all these exchanges on piano players, we were way out of the topic.
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Lang Lang is 100% chinese and so is his name (despite it can easily be misleading, like the other one : Yo Yo Ma - the chinese name is simply Ma Yo Yo). However, he longed to become a "banana chinese" and, obviously, he managed to "achieve" it.
Going back to our entertaining piano interlude, what about the famoso Mitsuko Uchida (she was amazing, three years ago in Berlin, in an incredible "Hammerklavier")? And, most importantly, who is going to refer, ever, to all those "unsung heroes", who, either manage to make a couple (or in some occasions more) CDs, in obscure labels, or none? It's perfectly O.K. to seek for the secure big names in the business, but, thank your lucky stars, there is plenty of greatness out there (both in an enormous discography or in live concerts) that wait for you...
Parla