LP to CD ???

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I have a few Classical LP's but this one in particular I realy love. Bach Organ Recital by Carl Weinrich on the Organ. Recorded On EMI Music for Pleasure label in the 60s. I have tried to find it on CD but alas no luck so far. 

All I have found out is that Carl Weinrich was an American, and made very few recordings in his lifetime. Has anyone heard of this man, and if in fact this LP was released on CD.

Chow

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RE: LP to CD ???

Sorry to tell you, but I am more than 99 % sure that the LP does not have a CD encarnation.

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You should be able to connect a phono output from your amplifier (tape out) to the microphone input for your comuter.

You can download a programme called Audacity from a website called soundforge which will digitise your lp. You can export as a WAV file onto a CD which will play on a CD player - or make an mp3. If there are clicks on the record, you can remove them.

Have fun,

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RE: LP to CD ??? RE: LP to CD ???

Thanks Phlogiston

I got around the problem by purchasing a USB turntable. Extravagant and costly I hear you say, but I have a collection of blues records to turn so it will pay for itself. Thanks for the info!

John

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I too have a USB turntable - not particularly expensive, but quite time consuming.

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phlogiston I've toyed with the idea of getting one of those, are they any good and how much audio editing is needed to make the recording listenable to on cd.

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I've got a fairly cheap one. It's made from plastic - but reasonable grade and seems to have been fairly well designed. You can control the tracking mass, and could probably put a different cartridge on if you wanted. There is a bit of rumble, but it's not too noticeable on my equipment - most noticeable through headphones.

The process of turning an lp into a cd can be fairly straightforward.

If I do not want lots of tracks the process might be this simple.

Boot computer, start Audacity (press record, then pause)

switch on ION. clean record, put it on.

Unpause audacity.

record plays into audacity.

At the end of the side, stop audacity, lift stylus off record.

If there are no scratches, export the file as a WAV.

If I want lots of tracks, select the portion of the record on the display, and "export selection as WAV"

Burn to CD

If there are scratches, audacity has a function for descratching - or you can zoom in on the display and edit the scratch manually.

You can remaster recordings - to say the Decca ffrr balance curve.

Audacity can be downloaded free so it is easy to see what it might do and if you find it good to use.

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May I sensitively reply to the above comments.

 To do justice to many LP and 78rpm records of the past, they require transferring with care and precision.

Constant rpm speeds, correct styli and cartridge matching with the correct eq curve is essential to reproduce these wonderful gems. Unfortunately there are many "quick fix" devices on the market for transcribing vinyl, shellac and acetate disks but the end result can be very dissapointing for the true music lover and archivist.

John Shaw

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You are quite right Mr Shaw, there are better turntables than my one, and probably better programmes for remastering and removing clicks. However, I have derived some considerable pleasure from my explorations, and hope to find time to do more.

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RE: LP to CD ???

But why do you want to transfer it? Why not just listen to the LP via a proper turntable & phono stage which will surely sound better?

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Partly to retrieve lps which have become difficult to listen to because of scratches, partly for ease of playback, partly for portability.

I for example derived pleasure from editing my recording of Backhaus playing Beethoven's 2nd piano concerto, so that the pitch drop as it goes into the last 78 side of the first movement disappears.

My father has decided to make more space by getting rid of his lps, but I have copied one or two of his cherished recordings to cd.

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I have also been digitizing my LPs to 16 bit FLAC files using a Rip-Edit-Burn software and a WAV to FLAC converter - on my PC. Both of these are free downloads.  I have been using an old Sansui turntable that I bought in the 70s.  New stylus and cartrige.   The sound is very very good 16bit 96mhz.  I can conserve the LPs and listen to the digital files through my PC.  The software will easily cut the tracs into separate files and allows me to fade the transitions in and out.    Yes it is time consuming but so is the pleasure of listening to great music.

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OK Phlogiston, fair comment; best of luck with your transfers!

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I got interested in burning lps to cd a few years back, mainly for the reasons cited by phlogiston, but fell at the first fence when I bought a cheap gizmo put out by Nero, with accompanying software, which I couldn't get to work properly. Going through various hi-fi forums few others have got it to work either, so I'm not quite so red faced.

There's another reason to convert, that I don't believe has been touched on yet: equipment obsolescence. Turntable, cartridge, stylus and arm manufacturers have dropped by the wayside over the years and although others have stepped in to fill the gap there's a good chance parts will become more difficult to find and increasingly expensive. I've got one website lined up for replacement belts for my Sugden, and if he goes under I could be scrambling.

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Well yes, and no, but how long for CD in the light of downloads etc? Manufacturers unfortunately come and go - look at how esoteric turntables at astronomical prices keep appearing (I sometimes wonder how many they actually sell). Will you be able to get a new laser or other parts for your CD player when it expires? How many of us have VHS tapes we won't be able to play when our machines expire? Such sadly is the fate of technology. I suppose the motto is make sure you're stocked up with obvious spares whilst they're still available. Mind you the 78 record has been around for over a century and some people can still play them! 

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33lp wrote:

Well yes, and no, but how long for CD in the light of downloads etc?

I'm sure you're right. At least the loading of cds into one form or another of accessible memory seems to be a relatively painless process. I'm just postponing that evil day. Having, twice, had hard-drives crash on me I'm not convinced it's the total answer. However, I've already had one near-miss on my cd player, when discs refused to spin up and the local repair shop told me they didn't think they'd be able to get parts for it any more. For all the world-wide breast-beating about conservation and recycling, it seems anything more than about 7 years old you might as well junk once it goes on the blip. Very few manufacturers are interested in supporting older products.