Mahler symphonies on record

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I've just ordered Adler's pioneering recording of the 3rd. Something I had been meaning to do for some time.

Did I read somewhere that Adler was British?

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Adler was born in London and died in Vienna.  See wikipedia.org for a short bio.  He studied with Mahler and was chorus master for the premiere of Mahler's 8th.  There are available, by the way, two different performances with the same forces of the Mahler 3rd.  The first is the one now on Music & Arts (originally on SPA lps).  The other, recorded by the Austrian Radio on April 20, 1952, is on Tahra.  What is interesting is that Adler does the final movement five minutes faster in the Tahra (21'50 vs 26'03).  I prefer the slower version which is the one you are getting. 

It has arrived and happily downloaded to my iPod.

An astonishing performance that appears quicker than most but doesn't sound it and not spoilt by the usual average playing of the VSO (look, if they were any good they would be in the VPO!) and in good fifties mono sound that is not a distraction.

If I'm not careful I shall be surfing the net to track down other recordings by this conductor who made an important contribution to 20thC music.

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I would like to put in a word for Chailly's version of No 5: direct and wonderfully well played.  And I strongly support the advocates of Klemperer's No 2 (live or the EMI studio version).

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Having experienced the pleasure of seeing Klaus Tennstedt conduct Mahler`s 6th Symphony many years ago at the Warwick Arts Centre with the LPO I must confess that my enjoyment of Mahler - and of Tennstedt - increased manyfold. What a wonderful evening it was, saddened only by the sight of a now elderly, frail Maestro half seated on a high stool who, with his Orchestra, gave us an evening to remember. Having said that, I do enjoy my box set of Mahler with Bernard Haitink conducting the Concertgebouw.

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Still no Bertini.

Am I missing something?

I think I should be told.

Here's another from the archives: Mitropoulos' 6th. Personally, I find it difficult to listen to but others may not.

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Agree with Sinopoli and Mahler 8 with Philharmonia.  When you have a piece this big a lot of the success is determined by the recording quality and here the balance is just right between too phorensic accuracy on one side and large indistinguishable treacle on the other. it is crisp and clear and also big and beautiful.

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I have so many recordings and the favourites change all the time which I think is healthy?  Currently:

1. Orchestre de Paris - Eschenbach

2. Bamberger Symphoniker - Nott

3. Wiener Philharmoniker - Maazel

4. Budapest Festival - Fischer

5. Cleveland Orchestra - Dohnanyi (tough one)

6. Royal Liverpool Phil - Schwarz

7. Cleveland - Boulez

8. Philharmonia - Sinopoli

9. Cleveland - Dohnanyi (another close call)

 

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david.allsopp wrote:

I have so many recordings and the favourites change all the time which I think is healthy?  Currently:

1. Orchestre de Paris - Eschenbach

2. Bamberger Symphoniker - Nott

3. Wiener Philharmoniker - Maazel

4. Budapest Festival - Fischer

5. Cleveland Orchestra - Dohnanyi (tough one)

6. Royal Liverpool Phil - Schwarz

7. Cleveland - Boulez

8. Philharmonia - Sinopoli

9. Cleveland - Dohnanyi (another close call)

 

But do you have the Bertini set?

I find your list...daunting.

Has anyone heard Scherchen in the 9th.

The good news is that it was recorded in Vienna but not with the VSOO.

No, it is the VSO...again.

I heard Boulez conduct the 7th when he was either Chief of the BBCSO or just come to the end of his tenure. It was recorded for transmission at the Maida Vale studio. I never heard the broadcast. An interesting experience!

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BrianEgan wrote:
...I offer the current
Mahler cycle by the Sydney Symphony, conducted by Vladimir Ashkenazy, which is
being released progressively on CD, on the Sydney Symphony live label. These
are all live performances, of course. They have so far performed the majority
of the symphonies, including No 10 in the Barshai realisation, and the Song of
the Earth, with various other Mahler pieces, and have released on CD Symphonies
1, 5 and 8, the Song of the Earth, the Songs of a Wayfarer and Blumine. By the
end of 2011 the cycle will be complete and released on 12 CDs. Now, whether or
not Ashkenazy can be regarded as a natural Mahlerian, which is, at base, a
deeply subjective assessment anyway, there’s no doubt that the performances and
the CDs released so far offer a powerful combination of excitement, total
professionalism in music-making and a deep understanding of Mahler’s music.
Well worth the investment.

I humbly beg to differ, the performances are quite lacking in passion. The audio stream is compressed for the 'popular market' and Ashkenazy looks way out of his depth as a conductor.  Witness the smiles and chuckles between mvmt 3 & 4 in Mahler 9 - not a serious contender!