What are you listening to right now?

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Without overestimating Szymanowsky (even the Polish do not feel so "impressed" by his music. Some well educated Polish friends used to call him simply "a Polish composer"), his String Quartets and his Violin/Piano Music are masterpieces, not that difficult to find the "hidden depths" and without to much of the "hermetic surface".

For the Symphonies and the Violin Concertos, possibly your remarks, 50m, could fit very well. These works do not keep surprising me, no matter how often I listen to them; they simply make me feel tired and often depressed, while I admit they are well written and with some impressive structure and interesting orchestration.

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[now playing] 

Hilary Hahn's amazing rendition of Schoenberg's equally amazing Violin Concerto. 

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This evening I listened again to Bach's supreme late masterpiece, The Art of Fugue, and used the opportunity to remind myself of the masterly playing of Charles Rosen, who died yesterday.  A fitting memento to a great musician.

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Sad that artists have to pass away before we dust down their CDs. Today I did that for Vishnevskaya's "Lady McBeth of Mtensk".

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I suppose you're right Bazza, all too often anyway. Oddly though, I was listening only last week to Arabella with Lisa della Casa, and the Britten War Requiem with Vishnevskaya. Uncanny!  I'd better not mention who else I've been listening to in case it has unfortunate consequences!

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The spookiness continues: only a few days ago, I was listening to Vishnevskaya's Tosca.

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I promise I wasn't listening to anything from Ravi Shankar last week.  It's not my fault!

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c hris johnson wrote:

This evening I listened again to Bach's supreme late masterpiece, The Art of Fugue,....

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A search on Spotify of 'The Art of Fugue' returns some 47 CDs including the Charles Rosen and according to the Rough Guide, 'the big question is:what instrument or instruments should The Art of Fugue be played on?'

C hris, do you listen to any other versions?

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Hi Kev!

Well, The Art of Fugue is something of an obsession for me. I have (too) many recordings of it!  The Rosen one you mention is certainly one of my favourites.

The problem of which instrument stems from the fact that Bach wrote out the work (and had it prepared for printing) in 'open' score', i.e one voice to a line. This led scholars to argue that there was no particular performance medium intended.  But the majority current view is that it is a keyboard work, mainly based on the simple observation that it is possible for a single keyboard player to perform the work. Most of the recordings I have are played on keyboard; harpsichord (Leonhardt, Moroney, Koopman), piano (Rosen, Aimard) or organ (Walcha). Leonhardt recording is masterly, but weakened for me by his omission of the final unfinished fugue.

It also sounds very well with a string quartet, though in this case the second voice sometimes goes too low for second violin, and the third too low for viola. Two recordings I have (Emerson, Keller) get over this by using alternative instruments where needed.  There is also a version by the Delme, using Robert Simpson's edition. He solves the instrument problem simply by transposing the whole work up from D minor to G minor.  I hate this upward transposition though many others are not bothered by it. It has to be in D minor for me! (You may have seen some discussion on another thread - people have strong views on this). Simpson's version also omits the canons. Of the string quartet versions I now find the Emersons a little too 'glib' and prefer the Keller (on ECM). The string versions offer some advantage in hearing the harmony, because long sustained notes cannot be sustained on the harpsichord, and not very easily on the piano. Of course the organ can do this too, but I've never felt the organ to be quite right for many of the fugues.

There are also versions with 'mixed' ensembles but I don't find these so satisfactory. We can discuss them further if you want!

There is also the question of the order in which the fugues should be played and almost every performer makes a different decision here.  Again I think Rosen has it right, going from the simplest to the most complex, with the canons as an appendix.

Is that enough to be going on with. As you see starting me off on The Art of Fugue is dangerous!

Chris

A good reference is Nicholas Kenyon's Faber Pocket Guide to Bach. Superbly written and unbelievably detailed considering it covers just about every work Bach wrote.

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c hris johnson wrote:

...A good reference is Nicholas Kenyon's Faber Pocket Guide to Bach....

Chris!  Yay!  Thanks for a fine post.  I'll have a look at the book before asking any stupid questions.  I'm thinking of buying the Kindle version.  Do you happen to know if there are any illustrations in the printed version which might not appear in the Kindle version?

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Hi Kev! No there are no illustrations at all. Kindle should be fine. And the book should certainly kindle your enjoyment of Bach! (Sorry for that!!)

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Product Details1st Symphony and Missa Syllabica amongst others...2cd.The Part 1st Symphony is Magnifico!

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Thanks, Chris, for your very thorough post on the "Art of Fugue". I agree with most of your points. I, however, appreciate all the possible "versions", although I admit the most original seems to be with the harpsichord.

As for the recordings, although there are plenty superb harpsichordist who have recorded it, I believe the three you mentioned are all reference ones. As for the piano, I may add the two recordings of Tatiana Nikolayeva (on Melodiya, still sounding very fine and the her late one on Hyperion), the extraordinary Grigory Sokolov (on Naive, what a performance) and the newly and superbly recorded one with Konstantin Lifschitz (on Orfeo, using a very fine Steinway Grand Piano).

On Organ, I have to add the very fine recording of Bernard Foccrouille (on Ricercar). A magnificent recording of a marvelous performance.

For a String Ensemble, the version of the Fretwork (on HM) is very good indeed, in stunning recording. For larger orchestral forces, the recent recording of the Akademie fur Alte MusiK Berlin, in a very impressive recording by HM, does full justice to the work and the older (but now released on SACD by Alia Vox) with Hesperion XX under J.Saval.

The Art of Fugue is not my sort of "obsession", but it is of the most essential listening for anyone seriously interested in Classical Music (and what a contrast with John Cage and Arvo Part's music!..).

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Bach Cantata BWV140 Nikolaus Harnoncourt.  Words fail me.

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