What are you listening to right now?
Mon, Mar 4 2013, 8:11PM
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RE: What are you listening to right now?
Addenda:
Tagalie and others - the Fabrice Fitch guide to ten early requiems is in the March issue. I've only just opened this issue today!
Brumas - what's that CD cover you posted?
Mark
Mon, Mar 4 2013, 8:17PM
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RE: What are you listening to right now?
Parla - I am a loss when you talk of a 'russian drama'. I just don't hear it.
I just don't get any of this with Gergiev - it's all just functional.
PS - I am also saving some of my money for the DG complete Boulez set...
Hmmmm ......... interesting. You'll find your comments echoed almost exactly in a new review on a certain well-known internet-only classical music site.
For me, too, the 'Geh' moment is a benchmark. It must portray absolute disgust unmixed with triumph, the dismissal of some foul creature crushed with a bootheel. Another benchmark is the beautiful 'Was keinen in Worten ich kunde", the tete-a-tete between Wotan and Brunnhilde in Walkure.
For me, the Boulez Ring is a cracker in almost every respect, let down only by an unsympathetic Seigfried, the crux at which many Rings come unstuck.
Mon, Mar 4 2013, 8:25PM
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RE: What are you listening to right now?
Addenda:
Tagalie and others - the Fabrice Fitch guide to ten early requiems is in the March issue. I've only just opened this issue today!
Brumas - what's that CD cover you posted?
Mark
Thanks, Mark, will investigate. That Graindelavoix Missa Caput is becoming difficult to find, as a cd at least. Looks like the cd is soon going to go the way of the lp. Hope I can hang in until they become a retro fad.
Mon, Mar 4 2013, 9:29PM
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RE: What are you listening to right now?
Hi Tagalie.
Try this official website - you have to type in Bjorn Schmelzer and Graindelavoix in the artists box. It's on at a price of nearly 18 euros. God knows what that is in sterling/dollars!
Mark
It's on Amazon uk (where I got it) at just under £15. Don't know if it's on Amazon US, if that's where you are. Don't know if you can order from the uk one or not...
Three verification codes needed to edit my post twice after the original. Come on guys! Can we possibly sort the need for that?
Mon, Mar 4 2013, 10:44PM
#6
RE: What are you listening to right now?
Parla - I am a loss when you talk of a 'russian drama'. I just don't hear it.
I just don't get any of this with Gergiev - it's all just functional.
PS - I am also saving some of my money for the DG complete Boulez set...
Hmmmm ......... interesting. You'll find your comments echoed almost exactly in a new review on a certain well-known internet-only classical music site.
For me, too, the 'Geh' moment is a benchmark. It must portray absolute disgust unmixed with triumph, the dismissal of some foul creature crushed with a bootheel. Another benchmark is the beautiful 'Was keinen in Worten ich kunde", the tete-a-tete between Wotan and Brunnhilde in Walkure.
For me, the Boulez Ring is a cracker in almost every respect, let down only by an unsympathetic Seigfried, the crux at which many Rings come unstuck.
tagalie - yes, I saw that review last night and wondered for a horrible second that I was thinking like the Hurwitzer! The review pretty much matched my first impressions. Shame really, as I was hoping for something far more volatile and rough around the edges.
As for my Boulez comment I should have been more precise - I'm saving my money for the complete Boulez records Boulez on 13 CDs which is due out soon. However, if somebody would be kind enough to put out the Boulez ring on CD (together with the Sawallisch Bayreuth recordings) that might tempt me.
Tue, Mar 5 2013, 2:25AM
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RE: What are you listening to right now?
Three verification codes needed to edit my post twice after the original. Come on guys! Can we possibly sort the need for that?
Perhaps they're in high alert mode as a result of the thread deletion issue. Or else you just look like a shady character Mark.
I buy regularly from Presto. Their service is first class, prices are competitive and for those who log on from Canada they even list in $Canadian. Navigating through their site is a breeze, they list professional reviews and their search engine is slick, light years better than Amazon.ca. When people bemoan the loss of the high street music shop they only have to look at sites like this for the reason. And no, I have no connection whatsoever with them, I'm just a very satisfied customer.
Tue, Mar 5 2013, 8:59AM
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RE: What are you listening to right now?
Hi Naupilus,
I can't find anything anywhere about a forthcoming Boulez conducts Boulez set. Is it from Sony or from DG?
I agree very much about the Boulez Ring. But it's also a superb production (IMO) and well worth having on DVD. I haven't heard the Gergiev Walkure yet but was unimpressed when I heard him conduct Parsifal in London some years ago.
Chris
Tue, Mar 5 2013, 9:39AM
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RE: What are you listening to right now?
Hi Naupilus,
I can't find anything anywhere about a forthcoming Boulez conducts Boulez set. Is it from Sony or from DG?
Chris
Chris
Pierre Boulez: The Complete Works
I haven't seen it on the Amazon.de site yet but I suspect it will pop up soon. The set runs to 13 CDs and has some first time recordings.
I wonder if the Boulez ring will ever make the appearance on CD again? I should start investing in DVDs but to be honest I never have time to sit down and watch anything really as my work is all consuming and my children are far more interactive.
Tue, Mar 5 2013, 10:05AM
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RE: What are you listening to right now?
Thanks Naupilus. Interesting
The list shows only the previously unpublished recordings. I find it quite difficult to add up 13CDs of Boulez's music! Anyway there will be more information soon enough. Good that it seems to be the DG recordings.
I suspect that they will not reissue the Boulez Ring on CD, but you never know. I don't know whether you or anyone else is interested but I recorded from the BBC the live performances from Bayreuth in 1980. I thought they were a little more impressive as performances than the filmed versions, which were not recorded 'live'. They are in good sound but on open reel tapes, 3¾ i.p.s stereo, 7" reels, not even one second missing. I no longer have tghe means to play them. Anyone interested who can play them - just let me know!
Chris
Tue, Mar 5 2013, 7:10PM
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RE: What are you listening to right now?
They are in good sound but on open reel tapes, 3¾ i.p.s stereo, 7" reels, not even one second missing. I no longer have tghe means to play them. Chris
I believe burning from vhs tapes to dvd has become reasonably straightforward on a home computer. Surely there's a way to do the same with your 7" reels?
Wed, Mar 6 2013, 3:55AM
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RE: What are you listening to right now?
Naupilus, the Boulz "Ring" is not that important as an additional Wagnerian interpretation. Some of the singers and his rather neutral, free of manierisms, approach are worth following matters, but, as a whole, it is one of the least interesting cycles one could opt for. His Parsifal was somehow more intriguing and well recorded.
However, for a thorough vision of the recorded Wagner works, Boulez "Ring" is a notable addition.
Parla
Wed, Mar 6 2013, 10:12PM
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RE: What are you listening to right now?
They are in good sound but on open reel tapes, 3¾ i.p.s stereo, 7" reels, not even one second missing. I no longer have tghe means to play them. Chris
I believe burning from vhs tapes to dvd has become reasonably straightforward on a home computer. Surely there's a way to do the same with your 7" reels?
Would it were so easy Tagalie. I can copy anything I can play on to CD. The problem is the open-reel tape recorder to play them. Very few if any are made now and even secondhand a decent one is expensive. I had copied many of my tapes on to CDs when mine broke down and could not easily be repaired. I don't know why I've kept the tapes but you never know. Someone may appear who can copy them!
Chris
Thu, Mar 7 2013, 10:10AM
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RE: What are you listening to right now?
Thanks, Mark, will investigate. That Graindelavoix Missa Caput is becoming difficult to find, as a cd at least. Looks like the cd is soon going to go the way of the lp. Hope I can hang in until they become a retro fad.
If it's a CD you're after, Glossa and Amazon are indeed the best options. The album is also for sale as an mp3-album for 8.99 on the iTunes Store.
Thu, Mar 7 2013, 11:49AM
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RE: What are you listening to right now?
Addenda:
Tagalie and others - the Fabrice Fitch guide to ten early requiems is in the March issue. I've only just opened this issue today!
Brumas - what's that CD cover you posted?
Mark
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Naupilus, I didn't mean the "Russian drama" as a compliment necessarily. I just found this controversial conducting of Gergiev with on one hand spacious pace and on the other some enervating tempi which may sound even ponderous. The "Russian drama" is somehow underlined by the dark sound of the Mariinsky Orchestra and the well defined and analytical SACD recording.
As for the singers, some of my lyric loyal friends are delirious with the otherwise sort of "best available" cast in today's lyrical market. For me none of them really serves the work as the old school of the great Wagnerian singers. However, Kaufmann is a darling of many today, Stemme, even if she is a fraction of the Nilsson voice and talent, has convinced the public that she is the Isolde of our times. So, why not Brunhilde? Pape is a good, maybe very good Wotan for our days and Anna Kampe simply a lovely Sieglinde. The two Russians, namely M. Petrenko as Hunding and E. Gubanova are part of the "Russian drama", with all the negative ramifications involved in.
Weigle is a good alternative too, but still I prefer the conducting of S. Young and, of course, I'm eagerly awaiting Janowski's SACD Ring, on the meticulously impressive Pentatone.
We'll see...
Parla