Which is the authentic Tchaikovsky??
Wed, May 8 2013, 5:19PM
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RE: Which is the authentic Tchaikovsky??
And now for something completely different.......................try Constantin Silvestri's recording of he last 3 symphonies on EMI (4,5,6 - Manfred is avaiable on Testament & BBC) - they're now all available again on ICON.
You may love them, you may hate them but you will not be indifferent!!
Wed, May 8 2013, 5:51PM
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RE: Which is the authentic Tchaikovsky??
Ah! Silvestri: now, there's an underrated conductor if ever there was one. I well remember a superb Brahms 4th Symphony, in Brighton of all places. His recording of the Beethoven violin concerto with Menuhin is also superb.
Must look out for that ICON box! Thanks!
Chris
Wed, May 8 2013, 6:23PM
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RE: Which is the authentic Tchaikovsky??
What about Igor Markevich on Tchaikovsky? There is a very interesting reissue box, on Newton, with LSO and New Philharmonia from the early sixties.
Parla
Wed, May 8 2013, 6:34PM
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RE: Which is the authentic Tchaikovsky??
Markevich too, another much undervalued conductor. I've not heards his Tchaikovsky, but I particularly treasure his recording of Berlioz La Damnation de Faust.
Chris
PS: Why do we English still spell Chaikovsky with a T?
Wed, May 8 2013, 9:12PM
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RE: Which is the authentic Tchaikovsky??
PS: Why do we English still spell Chaikovsky with a T?
We're addicted to tchai, you know that.
Wasn't it Markevich who did that famous early stereo recording of The Rite, the one with a photo of Ayers Rock on the cover? My first exposure to that incredible work.
Wed, May 8 2013, 9:24PM
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RE: Which is the authentic Tchaikovsky??
"His recording of the Beethoven violin concerto with Menuhin is also superb" (C hris said)
superb the orchestral accompaniment, C hris, but not Menuhin's performance, far from Erica Morini-Artur Rodzinsky, Heifetz- Barbirolli, Heifetz-Reiner, etc. oscar.olavarria
Wed, May 8 2013, 9:32PM
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RE: Which is the authentic Tchaikovsky??
Excuse me C hris I was thinking in Tchaikovsky concert versions, but also I did'nt like Menuhin's sound!, for me preferables are Ferras-Sargent, Szigeti-Walter (NAXOS Historical), Szeryng-Schmidt-Isserstedt, all with britanian orchestras, curiously!oscar.olavarria
Thu, May 9 2013, 4:31AM
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RE: Which is the authentic Tchaikovsky??
Your thinking of me - Rio, living under the right armpit of Christ. We are jsut stepping into autumn here but I have to say autumn in Rio is a lot like summer in Lancashire 90% of the time! Personally I much preferred the seasons in Khartoum, where I was for six years. Two seasons - very hot and dry followed by very hot with 'haboobs' (sandstorms). Three days of rain a year...
I believe Bazza too is in Brazil. Presumably not an admirer of Pyotr Ilyich.
Thu, May 9 2013, 4:53AM
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RE: Which is the authentic Tchaikovsky??
I do not like those Tchaikovsky's melodramatic works either: in the very same way I don't like some similar works from a Sibelius for example. But one should note that those works, notably the symphonic trilogy,have their intrinsic values and any historical analysis will show very interesting things about them. And when it comes to reading those works (add the piano trio, the string sextet....) there is no way out imo: it's crying over the spilt milk (Karajan, Bernstein.....)or praising the supremacy of the dominant fate (Mravinsky.....): no classical emulation apllies imo.Those approaches are somewhat dialectical but generally speaking I prefer the latter and in this regard Mravinsky rules: imperial! Not alone, of course, as we have great readings particularly of those symphonies, as already mentioned, from the likes of Monteux, Markevitch, Mengelberg (a famous 6th), and notably from Fricsay.
Therefore, to talk about "authentic" PIT is a bit misleading: there are good and bad interpretations and the good ones are not restricted to the Russian conductors or orchestras.
I agree with those who showed their preferences for other lesser known, less sentimental works from the composer as they allow a better appreciation of his inventive writting. Some mentioned his operas and I would add the orchestral suites, the serenade for strings, the early symphonies ("winter dreams").......
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Oscar, yes indeed absolutely the opposite of Mravinsky. Magnificent too.
Chris A.Gnostic