Why do we need another Brahms and/or Beethoven cycle?

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RE: Why do we need another Brahms and/or Beethoven cycle?

I don't think we need another cycle from Chailly or Barenboim or similar "stars" since ultimately they all more or less sound the same, sadly. The vast majority of modern conductors all sound the same, nice and flat, mezzoforte, average. Some try to be interesting by speeding things up like a gazelle or the opposite, but ultimately without adding any life.

However, if someone like Harding decides to record a cycle I'd rush out and buy it, at least he brings something new and fresh to the music, the way Furtwängler did, or Celibidache, or Kleiber.

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RE: Why do we need another Brahms and/or Beethoven cycle?

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Spotify, for the time being, you may pursue it

Parla

Oh wise one, I have been looking for a recording of the Mozart Piano Quartets for some time now. Have tried but don't like very much Stern/Ax/Ma/Laredo (too pollished), Lewis, Leopold trio (not ballsy enough) have heard Bilson etc on period instruments and liked it but the recording put me off, might try the Mozartean Players also on period instruments on DHM, seek your guidance oh wise one. we are not worthy, we are not worthy, we are not worthy .......

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RE: Why do we need another Brahms and/or Beethoven cycle?

I have already answered that, at least twice, but, apparently you never followed it.

For period performances, the Badura Skoda with the Festetics Quartet on Arcana is the one to chase.

For modern instruments, The Mozart Piano Quartet on MDG (in SACD) is the sure winner.

It's not a matter of wisdom, Dr. Einstein. It's dedication and listening experience for years. Something quite a few can manage to have.

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RE: Why do we need another Brahms and/or Beethoven cycle?

I am not worthy, I am not worthy, I am not worthy ..........

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RE: Why do we need another Brahms and/or Beethoven cycle?

In Music (and in Arts in general), we are all worthy!

So, Frank, just enjoy what you already have. Music belongs to you! Just honour the fact.

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RE: Why do we need another Brahms and/or Beethoven cycle?

parla wrote:

I have already answered that, at least twice, but, apparently you never followed it.

It's not a matter of wisdom, Dr. Einstein. It's dedication and listening experience for years. Something quite a few can manage to have.

Parla

Pass the bug spray, please.

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RE: Why do we need another Brahms and/or Beethoven cycle?

It won't work, Tagalie, but thanks for caring.

Irony is not for people who love Classical Music, while Humour exists in it but as wit and uplifting spiritual communication. (This is the humour I espouse).

However, between pals in this forum, anything goes (nothing can be "personal").

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RE: Why do we need another Brahms and/or Beethoven cycle?

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Irony is not for people who love Classical Music...

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RE: Why do we need another Brahms and/or Beethoven cycle?

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Irony is not for people who love Classical Music

I completely agree, you should always be totally concentrating on what you are doing while listening to classical music and the same goes for using a hot iron. Ironing and classical music DO NOT mix. Health and safety regulation 361/43-B

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RE: Why do we need another Brahms and/or Beethoven cycle?

Parla, stick to cutting and pasting from wikipedia and the other texts you use to try to pass as somebody who knows what they're talking about. Whenever you try to create a post from scratch, you make no sense whatsoever.

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RE: Why do we need another Brahms and/or Beethoven cycle?

Irrelevant, mischievous, malicious but always interesting in your aggressiveness, and animosity, Tagalie.

Whenever you refer to me (or my posts), you make very little sense to me, but, hey, who am I? You know better, no matter what.

The problem is, however, that, dealing with me (thanks for the honour), we lead astray...

(Anyway it's your call. Do as you like).

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RE: Why do we need another Brahms and/or Beethoven cycle?

I'll have you all know that I have listened to and absorbed fully some of the greatest works in the repertoire whilst ironyng.

I will not say how the ironing turned out, however.

It's OK, I've stopped laughing. Just let me sit down for a bit!

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RE: Why do we need another Brahms and/or Beethoven cycle?

Everyone - this is a forum about music not personal matters. Please refrain from making personal attacks. I find the comments against Parla in this particular exchange quite inappropriate and unjustified.

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ganymede wrote:

Everyone - this is a forum about music not personal matters. Please refrain from making personal attacks. I find the comments against Parla in this particular exchange quite inappropriate and unjustified.

I suggest you do your research before mounting your white charger. Go back through six months of this man's posts, including his disgraceful unmasking as a plagiarist of other people's research, and if you're still of the same opinion, let us know. As a new member your statement is understandable. I doubt you'll find a single long-standing forum member who would echo your sentiments.

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RE: Why do we need another Brahms and/or Beethoven cycle?

So, even when some prudent and sensible member comes not to my defense, but simply to bring you back to what we are supposed to love, honour and, in a sense, to serve in this forum, he is new (actually, he is not that new; he may have contributed less posts), he is ignorant because he didn't read all my posts, etc.

Ganymede is right on the substance. This is a forum about music and my posts have to do with music, unless I am personally attacked. Then, I found myself compelled to respond. So, the less you try to show off your talents in wry humour and cheap irony, the more we may concentrate on music. Finally, Mr. Tagalie, you are not (and nobody can be) the spokesman of every "single long-standing forum member". A bit of humility is always welcome.

(While I have something about ironing your music, Mr. Troyen and Dr. Einstein, I will refrain, respecting Ganymede's remarks).

Parla