Why do we need another Brahms and/or Beethoven cycle?
Tue, Mar 13 2012, 12:21PM
#2
RE: Why do we need another
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Fatuous, but innocuous.
Vic.
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I might be in but I ain't fat, whatever, do I look bovverered.
Tue, Mar 13 2012, 1:00PM
#3
RE: Why do we need another Brahms and/or Beethoven cycle?
I fully subscribe to Ganymede's very sensible, reasonable and to the point last post. We have to protect the "tone of the forum".
I sincerely hope that the "assailants" will follow such a wise advise and we may see a healthy and constructive forum.
Parla
Tue, Mar 13 2012, 3:17PM
#4
RE: Why do we need another Brahms and/or Beethoven cycle?
I fully subscribe to Ganymede's very sensible, reasonable and to the point last post. We have to protect the "tone of the forum".
I sincerely hope that the "assailants" will follow such a wise advise and we may see a healthy and constructive forum.
Parla
Do you think this ganymede's misguided post gives you the go-ahead to behave as you have always done?
Do you see it as a justification for your snobbery and elitism?
I do not think so. As I read it the ganymede wasn't agreeing with you just suggesting that we become less personal in our attacks on your outrageous ideas, if one can call them that.
Also, I do not subscribe to the "English is his second language and, therefore, posts get lost in the translation" school of conjecture,
It is when you are caught out and either try to back pedal or deny that that was what you meant and embark on another thread that is just as tiresome as the last and so it goes on.
Tue, Mar 13 2012, 4:42PM
#5
RE: Why do we need another Brahms and/or Beethoven cycle?
Please kindly, Mr. Troyen, desist only for the sake of the "tone of the forum".
I never said or implied that Ganymede agrees with me. On the contrary, I said I agree with him!
If I was a "snob" or "elit", I won't be here at all. (Do you need to repeat these useless cliches, all the time?, Who am I or you, in our anonymity, to be called anything, anyone would like to call us?).
So, I have the same love as all of you for Classical Music, observed, expressed and served in a different way, which is not that rare outside your world.
Parla
Wed, Mar 14 2012, 12:18AM
#6
RE: Why do we need another Brahms and/or Beethoven cycle?
Please kindly, Mr. Troyen, desist only for the sake of the "tone of the forum".
I never said or implied that Ganymede agrees with me. On the contrary, I said I agree with him!
If I was a "snob" or "elit", I won't be here at all. (Do you need to repeat these useless cliches, all the time?, Who am I or you, in our anonymity, to be called anything, anyone would like to call us?).
So, I have the same love as all of you for Classical Music, observed, expressed and served in a different way, which is not that rare outside your world.
Parla
You simply confirm my other belief which is, at the risk of using another cliche, your total lack of self-awareness.
Wed, Mar 14 2012, 9:24AM
#7
RE: Why do we need another Brahms and/or Beethoven cycle?
It is pointless Parla, The Trollone is a machine, he is just programmed to keep repeating himself.
Wed, Mar 14 2012, 7:31PM
#8
RE: Why do we need another Brahms and/or Beethoven cycle?
Like I said, I'm not defending any one person, I just want to salvage the tone on this forum, it's becoming a real nuisance. I know, there is a history and I'm not trying to sweep that under the carpet but let's dampen down the effect a little and stick to the subject instead. And that applies to everyone, including those I allegedly defend.
I applaud your sentiments - I'm not being facetious, I really do - but I honestly can't believe you're fully aware of the history of this man. I could go back through some of his prize past posts but it takes an age and I've done it before. When I compiled a bunch of them to support the allegations many of us are making, he just ignored them and went on in his usual way. He has three strategies when backed against a wall:
1) Ignore.
2) Waffle, change the subject and talk in circles. Inadequate command of the language is his excuse and one or two members have fallen for it. He's lucid when he wants to be or when he's quoting from Wikipedia.
3) Accuse his adversaries of personal attacks. When he isn't engaging in them himself, he comes within a hair of doing so as when he posted this in the current thread:
I have already answered that, at least twice, but, apparently you never followed it.
For modern instruments, The Mozart Piano Quartet on MDG (in SACD) is the sure winner.
It's not a matter of wisdom, Dr. Einstein. It's dedication and listening experience for years. Something quite a few can manage to have.
Parla
If that's not a full-on personal attack, it's a response dripping with sarcasm and arrogance. It's a put-down. O.K., it's directed at someone who doesn't command the respect of many forum members. But isn't that a statement that could be made about Parla himself?
I'd love these threads to stick to musical discussion, as they usually do when Parla isn't involved. It has been pointed out by others that it's his manner, his unshakeable belief that he is always right, that upsets and insults other forum members. Find, if you can, an admission that he's wrong in just one of his posts, even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
Wed, Mar 14 2012, 11:01PM
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RE: Why do we need another
It's not a matter of wisdom, Dr. Einstein. It's dedication and listening experience for years. Something quite a few can manage to have.
Parla
If that's not a full-on personal attack, it's a response dripping with sarcasm and arrogance. It's a put-down.
Oh come on, you just flatly refuse to see the humour in some of Parla's responses. I thought the English prided themselves on their sense of humour. Relax and chill out. Dr Einstein didn't have a problem with parla's 'put down' so why should anyone else. But then my brother Albert did get all the brains.
Wed, Mar 14 2012, 11:14PM
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RE: Why do we need another Brahms and/or Beethoven cycle?
Thanks a lot, Tagalie, for the 400 word (or more) post, dealing with me and trying to justify your (and your handful allies) persistent, recent inappropriate attacks.
I hope you may convince Ganymede, Caballe and any single silent member that you are absolutely right (and, of course, what you claim about me is not your opinion; it's a fact of life).
However, if I'm allowed to say something about Parla, you are far away from the truth. Don't forget the Anais Nin' say: "We don't see things as they are. We see them as we are"!
By the way, even if you don't care, I still respect you as a co-member of this forum. Try to see beyond the messages of Parla.
(And by the way, could you indicate any poster who clearly stated once "mea culpa"?).
Parla
he's so transparent!
Clearly
Well, "Frank", is it six or seven now? And why? I can understand the need to change after those embarrassing outbursts, but I think your last three (or is it four?) have been pretty innocuous. Fatuous, but innocuous.
Vic.