Football in Gramophone Mag?

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Liking Compton's acid, contemptuous scorn. 

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lemmor1975 wrote:

Hi all, I am new here.  Been a lurker for a while as I love classical pieces as well :)  I thought you were discussing adding a football section here in the forum for discussion, lols. Or is it the case? ***Confused

Football on a classical music site? What can you be thinking of sir?

Take that Sidney chap, rabbiting on about some goal in 1998, Argentina and Holland or some such. Heard chaps at the club waffle about that one. Pollycock. Can't hold a candle to Graveney's leg glance of Selvey at New Road on August 31st 1968.

Would have hurrumphed there but last time I did Gramophone fellers told me characters invalid. Invalid characters you say? See some pretty invalid characters at regiment reunions these days, can't say I've ever had onomatopoeic throat-clearing called invalid. Where were we? Ah yes, football. Chaps who want to talk about such things should trot over to that haydenesque forum. Chinwagging about all sorts over there, birds, gardens, something called rock and roll. Stuff and nonsense if you ask me.

F.-P.

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You have to laugh at how basic the football commentary seems now from the sixties. 'And here come the Portuguese...Eusebio shoots...and it's a goal. 1-0. And here come the Portuguese again...2-0...' All done in a raather upper-class clipped manner.

No action replays from 4 different angles, no slowed down analysis of just how superb the skills involved were, no virtual arrow tracing the ball's trajectory and identifying its speed...the advances of technology. The commentary in those days was simply surface description of what could be seen. Perhaps we've gone too far in our dissection of the sporting moment?

And how about those wonderful early days of the expert panel in the 70's? Allison and Cloughie with massive cigars which they were actually smoking. How politically incorrect! And even funnier, they openly basked in the rays from their own egos...these were the first media appointed soccer experts, and didn't they just love it.

Incidentally, a must see film is the version of David Peace's novel The Damed United, a piece of faction about Cloughie's ill-fated short reign at Leeds. 'Sheen nails Clough' as one reviewer said. A great performance, and a wonderful piece of nostalgia.

CMK's comments are funny of course. Radio commentators who assumed that people needed a map of the pitch!

Fraz Jo - disapntd. Bn ringin this grl al week. No ansr...looks lke she changed her mnd. O well...Ldwg...

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You're reawakening memories of Kenneth Wolstenholme, Mark, one of the least competent commentators of all time, in any sport. My favourite Wolstenholme moment came out of the 66 World Cup final, and it wasn't his commentary as the game ended - which for some reason that completely escapes me, has become celebrated. It was his statement as Jack Charlton gave away a free kick on the edge of the box with a handful of minutes to go in regulation time. Can't recall the exact words, but something like, "It doesn't matter, there are only two minutes left."

Cue Germany's equaliser.

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Yes Tagalie, another OOps! moment...

And for those of you watching in Black and White, the pink is behind the blue...

Cue Coleman Balls!

Fraz Jo - disapntd. Bn ringin this grl al week. No ansr...looks lke she changed her mnd. O well...Ldwg...

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Naupilus hope the weather is fine in Rio.

I must write to you Naupilus regarding the two recent friendly matches between your boys and England. I have decided this; there is no way that you will win the World Cup next summer on home soil.

Not because you haven't beaten England in these two games, not because the weight of expectation in Brazil's home country will be too great, but because of...wait for it, your current players' names!!!

In days gone by, the Gods of world football have had names suitable for Gods, viz. Jairzinho (famously abbreviated to 'Jair' by 1970 TV crew Mexico, Rivelinho, Alberto Carlos. And Pele, synonymous with Zeus. From 1994 we had Mauro Silva, Cafu, Marcios Santos and Romario. Ah! there's another God-like name. And from 2002's winning side we had Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, Roberto Carlos and Gilberto Silva. These are names which have entered the hall of fame.

Some Brazilian football gods need only one name, some have the distinction of having two.

But you cannot win a world cup with names like Fred, Hulk, Miranda and Oscar. These are not the names of football Gods. These are the names of a foursome in a Marvel comic. Dante is good, I like that, that is suitable. Paulinho I like that, we've not had one of those before, Oscar...well, lots of footballers need one of those. Neymar is mouth-watering, as apparently is his skill, but alas, on the whole, these are names not even worthy of the great Brazil side who never won it in 1982, when we had Socrates, Roberto and Falcao.

Tell Scolari to pick appropriate names and you might have a chance...

Fraz Jo - disapntd. Bn ringin this grl al week. No ansr...looks lke she changed her mnd. O well...Ldwg...

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