Death of a Forum.

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Death of a forum: a case of terminal delirium

This has become a strange place. Rather like Brexit, the decision to leave is shrouded with myths created by the participants.

The biggest myth suggests that this was once a useful and enjoyable forum until it was joined by Parla who has in effect destroyed it.

I cannot remember such times since I am a relative newcomer. But from the start of my engagement, this forum has been dominated by the responses to Parla by other members. Sometimes he is accused of plagarism, sometimes his pomposity, and sometimes his know-it all attitudes.

I have found, however, that Parla frequently responded in an involved and interested manner to my own contributions to the forum. Perhaps this puts me on a par with Parla, if so, so be it.

Looking to a moderator to control Parla does not seem to me to be the appropriate strategy, if, that is, one wishes to control Parla.

More pertinent would be to ignore him and get on with things.

But it would appear that members cannot ignore Parla, and some responses to him have been downright intolerant and quite nasty. If his poor command of the English langauge is a problem for some, what about a regular member who participates almost exclusively in German? Not that I have any problems with the said user of German.

Perhaps we should all be more tolerant of each other, we all have our foibles despite our personal sense of self-importance.

The forum has not been closed. It has been relegated from the main Gramaphone site and has been allocated the same status of twitter and facebook. Perhaps this is a sound decision since this forum has involved a lot of inane twittering and narcissism more appropriate to facebook.

 

Can we get back to the music and our different ways of enjoying listening to our favourite music, including the apparatus we prefer to use in doing so? 

 

 

 

socratesgwr wrote:

socratesgwr wrote:

 

The biggest myth suggests that this was once a useful and enjoyable forum until it was joined by Parla who has in effect destroyed it.

I cannot remember such times since I am a relative newcomer. 

 

You should have stopped right there. If you want to know how this forum got to where it is today, take the time to go back through its threads. If you can't be bothered - and I don't blame you - you put yourself in the same boat as people who preface their views on a football match with, "I didn't see the game, but .........". In other words, you might want to save your breath. As for confining postings to matters of music, you'll find endless attempts by people who have contributed to this thead to do so - again if you want to go back through five years of forum history. Frequently, derailment of such threads is due to you-know-who, hence the decline of the site. By all means feel free to give it another shot, the rest of us are way beyond strike three.

guillaume wrote:

guillaume wrote:

 

Even before Parla got into his stride, quite a lot of people came and went or contributed only very sporadically. I suppose that might be par for the course for any new forum but it just seemed to me that no permanent core community was ever formed - just temporary ones around certain topics.

One aspect of G's disinterest in this forum has been its refusal to put in a linked email facility, a common if not universal feature of most forums. Giving members the ability to contact eachother directly and discuss matters offline, it's an excellent way of creating the comradeship that you, quite rightly, note as lacking. If nothing else, it would have allowed members to vent their frustrations in private and help keep threads on-topic.

online/offline

What is the point of an online virtual forum which offers access to an offline virtual one-to-one forum?

I suppose you can then discuss Parla in private.

tagalie wrote:

tagalie wrote:

 

socratesgwr wrote:

 

 

The biggest myth suggests that this was once a useful and enjoyable forum until it was joined by Parla who has in effect destroyed it.

I cannot remember such times since I am a relative newcomer. 

 

 

 

You should have stopped right there. If you want to know how this forum got to where it is today, take the time to go back through its threads. If you can't be bothered - and I don't blame you - you put yourself in the same boat as people who preface their views on a football match with, "I didn't see the game, but .........". In other words, you might want to save your breath. As for confining postings to matters of music, you'll find endless attempts by people who have contributed to this thead to do so - again if you want to go back through five years of forum history. Frequently, derailment of such threads is due to you-know-who, hence the decline of the site. By all means feel free to give it another shot, the rest of us are way beyond strike three.

 

Spot on Tagalie.  This is a perfect summation of the situation past and present.

And in passing, no-one has been remotetly "crushed" by anything Parla has contributed to this forum.  What he has done to his own standing is another matter however.  

Faute de mieux.

After 45 posts, the "perfect summation of the situation past and present" has been reached in this miserable thread. Not bad. Let's see where you are up to...

In the meantime...some more grumbling might be expected. No wonder.

Parla

the decent thing

To quote David Cameron: "For heaven's sake man, go!"

Willem

Awake

Just looked in - first time for months. Good to see the old members are still here.

Fraz Jo - disapntd. Bn ringin this grl al week. No ansr...looks lke she changed her mnd. O well...Ldwg...

The foolish thing.

Unfortunately, you are not David Cameron and I am not Jeremy Corbyn, let alone I have nothing to do with the (nowadays) troubled British politics.

Besides, this is just a forum about Classical Music. A decent thing is to stop another never-ending negative thread and talk about, let's say, the distinctive role of Mozart's K.304 in his Chamber Music.

Parla

Willem remarked: To quote

Willem remarked: To quote David Cameron: "For heaven's sake man, go!"

One could say that this is a little passe given that Cameron has taken his own advice.

Willem also told us that he himself was leaving, and he had apparently gone. Appears that he still follows this dismal thread and cannot resist making snide remarks about another member.

This is what is wrong with this thread. Let us be tolerant, open-minded and respect those whose opinions we may not share. Have a good laugh about Parla if you must, but carry on with the serious business of discussing classical music as a conversation. This gets more like a pub brawl every minute. Shame on you all.

But I am not leaving while waiting for the democratic dialogue to revive and flourish.

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