Gramophone Editor's Choice - Qobuz or Spotify?

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pgraber wrote:Look  forward

pgraber wrote:

Look  forward to your views on the newly announced variable quality streaming service from Naxos....

Waiting for Naxos to sort me out a review sign-up, then will have a play and report back.

Audio Editor, Gramophone

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Thanks for the...valuable (imho) comments, Paul, on this free forum.

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Do not rely on airports and..."autographs", Jane

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Karajan signed up for 2 days of schooling at La Guardia Airport and got permission to fly himself between engagements.

A plane came within close view...

Karajan made a perfect landing at Baltimore, but seemed shaken. He said, 'I am going to write out 100 times "I will look around when flying" '

New Naxos streaming service

Andrew Everard wrote:

 

pgraber wrote:
Look  forward to your views on the newly announced variable quality streaming service from Naxos....

 

Waiting for Naxos to sort me out a review sign-up, then will have a play and report back.

 

The new Naxos service does look very interesting.  Like Paul, I like to have access to Spotify Premium - despite its annoyances - but find Spotify+Qobuz an expensive option.  Naxos's pricing is very reasonable.  

 

I gave up on Tidal because of its lack of gapless playback and CD booklets, plus the many dropouts during playback (Spotify and Qobuz are both fine on my system).  I've signed up for the 14 day trial of Naxos so will see how it goes.

 

Chris

Chris

Chris

I'm away from home for the rest of this month, so won't be able to use Naxos or any other streaming service. You and I (and I guess lots of other classical listeners) have pretty much the same streaming preferences to date - so if you're using the Naxos one (is it actually available yet?) I'd be really grateful if you would report here on how you're finding it.

Paul

First impressions

Paul,

 

I signed up last night and have got it working via Safari.  First impressions are that the UI is a bit confusing and basic, but this could change with familiarity. The good news is that gapless playback seems to work.  Four seconds before a track finishes you see the start of the next track being downloaded and so far I've not been able to detect the transitions.  I've only had one glitch in playback, and this was when I was using the browser for something else on a (gapless) track change.  I've listened to it for less than an hour so far though.  

 

The sound is very good - so far I've only tried CD quality, which is comparable with Qobuz and Tidal.  CD booklets are available for some albums, but I'm not sure what proportion yet.  The good thing is that the booklets open in a separate window where you can print or download as a PDF.  I've not had chance to explore the catalogue, but it seems less extensive that Spotify, Qobuz or Tidal.  It seems to contain some surprising omissions, e.g. the Petrenko Shostakovich series.  The search seems straightforward but I might be missing something.

 

Only real problem so far is that I'm unable to log in to the iPad app, so will need to contact them.  I'll use it as much as I can over the trial period, but so far I'm quite impressed, especially with the sound, gapless playback and booklets where present.

 

Chris

ClassicsOnline HD•LL

After several days use, I'm starting to really like ClassicsOnline.  Familiarity with the search shows that it's much better than its rivals (and the Petrenko Shostakovich recordings are there).  

 

The big labels are mostly missing, but to compensate the specialist classical labels are well repesented, for example there are large numbers of recordings from the Chandos, Naxos and BIS catalogues - including the splendid new Andrew Davis Dream of Gerontius.  Gapless playback so far has been seamless - and I've found streaming better than Spotify and Qobuz (at CD quality) on my system.  There is still the odd glitch but mostly you can play an entire album without problems.  Sound quality is excellent.

 

At slightly less than the cost of our monthly TV licence, I'm strongly tempted to subscribe for a few months at least.  Has anybody else tried it yet, in particular those from the US who can't get access to Qobuz?

 

Chris


cwimlett wrote:

cwimlett wrote:

After several days use, I'm starting to really like ClassicsOnline.  Familiarity with the search shows that it's much better than its rivals (and the Petrenko Shostakovich recordings are there).  

 

The big labels are mostly missing, but to compensate the specialist classical labels are well repesented, for example there are large numbers of recordings from the Chandos, Naxos and BIS catalogues - including the splendid new Andrew Davis Dream of Gerontius.  Gapless playback so far has been seamless - and I've found streaming better than Spotify and Qobuz (at CD quality) on my system.  There is still the odd glitch but mostly you can play an entire album without problems.  Sound quality is excellent.

 

At slightly less than the cost of our monthly TV licence, I'm strongly tempted to subscribe for a few months at least.  Has anybody else tried it yet, in particular those from the US who can't get access to Qobuz?

 

Chris


Chris

Sounds interesting - but for me the absence of the majors is a bit of a killer. I suppose if they had all of the independents I might have to consider a double subscription with, say, Qobuz, but if Hyperion and ECM  etc are missing, I can't see enough added value in the Naxos offering. How are you feeling about that?

Regards

Paul

Paul,

Paul,

 

Yes, Hyperion and ECM would make the decision a lot easier.  ClassicsOnline does seem different to the other services, more like an enormous record library that you can use alongside an existing CD collection or other streaming service than a replacement for either.  

 

If Tidal acquired gapless playback or Qobuz the Chandos catalogue, both would probably be better options - especially as the iPhone/iPad app of both is much better than that from ClassicsOnline.  But there is a lot of material in the ClassicsOnline catalogue that I don't think either of the others offer, and the ClassicsOnline advanced search is streets ahead.  

 

The big question is whether a classical-only service will survive, but I'll probably let the subscription run for a month or so at least.  Definitely worth a try when you get a chance.

 

Chris

ClassicsOnline problems

I spoke too soon - last night ClassicsOnline was almost unusable, constantly stopping playback.  My internet connection seemed fine so possibly problems at their end.  I'll see how it goes for the rest of the trial period and reserve judgment until then

Chris

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