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I am not sure the decline of

I am not sure the decline of this forum can be attributed to a wider decline in the popularity of classical music, Parla. While this forum withers, others flourish. The cause might be a little closer to home........

As for thirty new members - well, that probably is asking a lot. But after all, we are talking about a global publication with readers all around the world and a reputation which goes back almost a hundred years. It shouldn't be too hard to cultivate an active and populous forum.

Interest(s)?

The "decline" I am referred to goes beyond the mere "popularity" of Classical Music, which, in some ways, never existed. There is a general decline in what the "managers" of this Music (current artists, soloists, schools, institutions, audiences, governments, sponsors etc.) are doing or even can do.

I have the experience of some "flourishing" forums and I do not envy them...at all. Quantity defies often quality.

Global publications do not, by definition, guarantee the existence of thriving forums. The readers are not destined to become forum members anyway. Besides, current members cannot be attracted to a publication's forum on account of those who used to enjoy the publication some decades ago. Reputation has other roles to play and, for the time being, it seems to have to manage to sustain a minimum interest of all those "readers all around the world" for Classical Music.

Having said that, I do not think anyone can disagree that, for any other reason, an "active and populous forum" is a hard thing to do. However, beware of "popularity". It does not go hand in hand with quality...

Parla

But some quantity is

But some quantity is necessary! Two men and a dog a forum do not make.

I very much take Parla's

I very much take Parla's point, in one respect at least. The sheer numerical quantity of posts in a forum doesn't guarantee their quality. Some of the most verbose and frequent posters have been those with the least to say.

 

 

Interest(s) II - "Sustainable development".

Of course! Anyone can agree to that, Jane. However, the crucial question is: Is there any genuine interest to generate "some quantity" needed? And, if, somehow, it may be created, how can this quantity be sustained?

Parla

janeeliotgardiner wrote:

janeeliotgardiner wrote:

I am not sure the decline of this forum can be attributed to a wider decline in the popularity of classical music. While this forum withers, others flourish. 

 

Which ones, Jane?  I have not seen  'flourishing' forums elsewhere (numbers alone do not make a flourishing forum). I do think the problem is partly generic at least.

However one thing seems obvious to me. There is a residue of potential contributors amongst us. Members regularly appear out of the woodwork to berate the decline of the Forum, but nothing else.  It is always him or them that are to blame.

If each one of those (us) who appear solely to grumble were to contribute constructively to the forum instead of berating others for their perceived deficiencies I believe we would have a vibrant forum. A successful forum does not require thirty contributors (or any fixed number), but does require positive input: that difficult but achievable balance, mixing stimulating subject matter with tolerance of one's fellow contributors is surely within our reach with a little goodwill all round.  

It's as simple as that: to each one of you who has criticized the decline of the Forum, make it your task to contribute a new thread or to an existing one!

 

I'll try to do my bit if others are willing!

 

Chris

 

 

 

Chris A.Gnostic

Well, the Friends of Radio 3

Well, the Friends of Radio 3 forum (which includes the Building a Library section) would be a good example of a flourishing, well-managed forum. Plenty of superb discussions there. Quite a lot of brief exchanges - some of which are not much more than "I like the Klemperer best" or "I have just ordered X on Amazon" - but also some meatier, well-informed exchanges, too. Some of the regular contributors are seasoned orchestral players and experts in the field. The presiding spirit, despite the odd, vinegary exchange, is one of politeness and mutual encouragement. Needless to say, this hasn't come about by accident - as Gramophone seem to hope - but through continual moderation: not censorship, as such, but something more subtle and effective: the setting of a tone through judicious reminders, jokes and comments in the thread itself. 

But I do take your point, Chris, about the latent possibilities of our own forum, if I can call it that. We've been there before, however.........

Fair enough Jane: if I lived

Fair enough Jane: if I lived in the Uk I might have been tempted but Gramophone's remit is much wider and much of the Gramophone's readership (and Forum) is scattered worldwide - one of its attractions when it's working.

 

Anyway, thanks for what I take to be your support??

 

Chris

 

 

Chris A.Gnostic

A Sisyphean Invitation?

c hris johnson wrote:

Anyway, thanks for what I take to be your support??

Hmmm......I don't know. We've both been there before. I'm just not convinced that good-will and tolerance are enough to revitalise the forum. It only takes one member to spoil it for others.......

But for reasons that make little sense to me, I am not completely closed the possibility. If the right thread came along........

The right decision.

It sounds like conditionality, Jane. Is this the "right thread", anyway?

To me, almost any thread might be the "right one", if each one of us wishes to participate with interest and genuine involvement.

Anyway, we'll see...Time of goodwill and coming closer, if not together, is round the corner.

Parla

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