Is Jonas Kaufmann really an exceptional tenor?

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Atonal wrote:

I've kept out of this one (like Vic) been there all too often.

And hopefully it's my last foray too. I'm well aware I've been critical in the past of the endless, circular bickering contests on this forum with a certain poster. Now I find myself a participant. Ah well, to paraphrase ................

As a well known and much loved professor of mine used to say, if you spend time arguing with a fool, what does that make you?

At the risk of bringing this thread round full circle, I watched the Kaufmann Werther the other night. A brilliant performance. You can carp all you want about the lack of squillo, the voice does have a ringing top end as well as smooth, dark middle and lower ranges, and he has to be one of the best singing actors around, particularly in this role.

RE: Is Jonas Kaufmann really an exceptional tenor?

"Arguing with a fool", Tagalie? Oh! Oh! Faux pas, my dear friend.

However, I can understand you. It's a way out, after all.

Anyway, we agreed : "Chacun a son gout" (at the end of the day). Who is a great tenor or Opera singer is another question for some other (sunny) day.

I hope you may enjoy as well the new Werther with Villazon (it's coming soon).

Parla

RE: Is Jonas Kaufmann really an exceptional tenor?

Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction......Albert Einstein

Pause for thought.

RE: Is Jonas Kaufmann really an exceptional tenor?

An intelligent fool is simply following those wise guys who are wandering (sometimes even fooling) around, lost in their bewilderment.

Parla

RE: Is Jonas Kaufmann really an exceptional tenor?

I'll let you know - I'm going to hear him in Symphony Hall, Birmingham in a couple of weeks' time

Ruref

RE: Is Jonas Kaufmann really an exceptional tenor?

Parla

In my humble opinion, perception IS governed by taste and opinion, since we all perceive according to our own experience.

Someone who is hearing opera/pop/classical will perceive it according to their own unique listening experience, so it is reasonable to assume that a beginner will receive it differently from someone with your unquestioned experience.

As for me, I wouldn't dare question your opinions, after all I've only about 35 years of professional performing (classical violin) on which to base me thoughts.  

Ruref

RE: Is Jonas Kaufmann really an exceptional tenor?

RUREF, perception is governed by taste, opinion and knowledge (based on the education one may have), cultural background and, occasionally some more features (research, further studies, etc.).

The question is whether one understands that perception is the key and the whole and doesn't deal with the part of it, namely the taste, opinion or anything else suitable for him or her. As a professional performing artist, you may comprehend me. At least, in the field of violin repertory, you may recognise (perceive) that the Sonatas and Partitas of Bach are the very heights of the instrument, regardless you like them and independently of whether you have a high opinion about them.

Parla

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RUREF wrote:

As for me, I wouldn't dare question your opinions, after all I've only about 35 years of professional performing (classical violin) on which to base me thoughts.  

Leaving aside the fact that that considerable experience will no doubt have equipped you amply to decide for youself on the merits of the Bach without anyone's imprimatur, let alone that of our resident sage, do let us know how it goes with Kaufmann in Birmingham and let us have your thoughts. I almost booked for this, but for boring reasons just couldn't fit in the journey from London and back in a day.

JKH

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stevefarber wrote:

Grammar! Spelling! See me, all of you. And bring back Bonisolli.

The worst tenor ever, screaming and no style whatsoever.

He's not even allowed to stand in Jonas shadow.

RE: Is Jonas Kaufmann really an exceptional tenor?

Well I wouldn't call Bonisolli the worst tenor ever. There's no doubting the splendour of his voice, but he did rather epitomise the ever lambasted bone headed Italian tenor.

I saw him on stage once and he always seemed surprised that the audience didn't applaud after every high note. In an effort to encourage it to do so, he kept striding to the footlights, arms outstretched whenever he hit a note higher than a top G, holding the note as long as possible in the vain hope that this would get the approval he so obviously needed. It became laughable and actually induced titters rather than applause, which, I am sure, is not the effect he was striving for.

 

 

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