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Sedgley,

sadly, I think the world's destiny is not in our hands.....but what we really can do is improve our crestfallen forum, with better and more interesting posts! I say.....Regards! oscar.olavarria 

 

In a not so perfect world...

Although our friend from Chile is right about "better and more interesting" posts (apparently) focusing only on Classical Music, your last post on this thread makes me feel compelled to respond.

The dogma, nowadays, exists and is in force, nicely concealed often, in politics (religion is politics too). 

The music is actually an unnecessary thing. People can live without it, but life is simply more beautiful with it. That's all! Pleasures (of any kind) might also be unnecessary accordingly.

"Acts of evil" hapen, on a quite frequent basis, in "other" parts of the globe and most of us care less (e.g. just few days before the Nice attack 250 people died in a similar case in Baghdad...). The "outbreak" is there...in one or the other way.

With Brexit in force, I believe the prices of the CDs (manufactured in EU countries) should be the least of your concerns. By the way, Somm is a very useful British label, promoting good and, often, unexplored music.

The world

oscar.olavarria wrote:

Sedgley,

sadly, I think the world's destiny is not in our hands.....but what we really can do is improve our crestfallen forum, with better and more interesting posts! I say.....Regards! oscar.olavarria 

If the world is not in our hands as thinking human beings,then in whose hand does it sit. The big companies? The politicians? Mickey Mouse and Pluto? We are all quite capable of making history if we desire. It just takes a will and some effort.

Classical music fans can be a most diffident mob. They can shout hurrah for some second rate pianist,but seem unable to take to the streets and use their democratic rights. I guess that  most are middle class,and,of course,they can't be seen to rock the boat. The vicar wouldn't like it neither would the local WI.

I have belonged to this forum for just over five years,and have gone away and come back several times. It still hasn't improved. But like most such forums,some names dominate,and they deter serious discussion. Of course,any forum,be it audio or bee keeping,can be dominated. Human nature being what it is,the dreary get up top and dominate. We have a saying in these parts,empty vessels make the loudest noise.I suggest that members drop out and do what should be the best thing in life. Listening to music rather than trying to dissect it. What was it that Beecham said about critics? Oh yes. They can read music but not understand it.

 

Sedgley

The elusive aspects of the world.

It is refreshing that you seem to believe that your posts, apart from being a clear digression from the topic of the original thread, constitute a sort of discussion on serious matters.

It is also quite optimistic that you seem to believe that by "taking to the streets and using our democratic rights" the world's destiny will be in our hands (to use Oscar's phrase). What you seem to ingnore is that the first and most significant democratic right is to know and choose by yourself when and how to use all your "democratic" rights. Otherwise, we are moving towards the popular/social movements which is part of...politics again. And the leaders of these movements become some of the most ferocious politicians.

On the other hand, Classical Music listeners (not fans) are not a mob; they are individual thinking human beings and they appreciate music by seriously listening to it (including the comprehensive analysis of it, even if you call this as "dissect" the music). If some of the audience in a concert "shout hurrah for some second rate pianist" is not for the value of the soloist but mainly for the unique experience even a second rate soloist can offer to the audience in a live performance, which is the essence of all performing arts (this unique bond of audience and a performer in live communication during a concert).

By the way, listeners of Classical Music may come from all kind of social or economic classes. Incidentally, middle class, except of being in the...middle, is nothing bad or useless. A good deal of them may be quite good and thinking people too.

A final tip for you Sedgley, if I may: Stick to the music, whenever you listen to it. Just concentrate on what it may have to say to you. By analysing it, you may find much more than you have ever discovered so far. The betterment of this world is not in your hands alone. You have to either belong to a political movement or create one. In both cases, you will end up not working as a "thinking human being" but as a calculated politician with interest as the main valid "democratic" right...unfortunately.

Best wishes in all your endeavours.

Parla

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