Beethoven Violin concerto

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naupilus wrote:

Personally I have never heard a pefromance that surpassed Wolfgang Schneiderhan with Jochum on DG. There is something about the playing that I feel speaks to the great simple beauty of Beethoven's finest compositions.

Naupilus, you have it in a nutshell.  I just logged on in order to say the same thing.  This evening I have listened to the Faust Berg /Beethoven CD as it was waiting for me when I got home, followed by Hubermann, Schneiderhan and now Krebbers.  Krebbers is supremely beautiful in tone, unequalled there, his violin really sings, but Schneiderhan goes beyond all others and reveals a wonderful serenity in the work that is its essence.  And as you say it's something simple.  Beyond easy human description, but simple.  Really Schneiderhan's performance is transcendent, at times it feels more like religious revelation than a piece of music.

Hubermann is interesting, well more than interesting, a staggering performance at the borderline between genius and madness.  The sound isn't bad considering it's a 1936 mono recording transcribed from 78s, but there are a few moments when the highest violin notes are nearly lost in the orchestra which is a shame.  We should be grateful this was recorded for posterity at all though.  It really sounds as though the violin line is a living thing, snaking and wriggling and slashing around.  There is nothing whatever of the serenity of Schneiderhan, this is something quite different, to be honest Hubermann appears to have been possessed!

There are another half-dozen different performances to go through at the vicarage, a further report will follow.  I am so tempted to splash out the £50 for that Audite set.  I have Menuhin/Furtwangler London 1953, but never really liked it to be honest, so my curiosity is piqued by the praise for Lucerne 1947 in this thread.

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I would stick with the one you have

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GWP wrote:

However, for me, their September 1947 Berlin performance tops the lot. It is sublime beyond words. As far as I know, it is only available as part of the superb Audite box of Furtwangler's post war RIAS recordings.

 

No!  It's available on Testament.  Less than a tenner. Snap it up folks...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B000003XKA/

Surprised no-one mentioned

Surprised no-one mentioned the Walter/Francescatti 1961 recording yet.
To me there's a nobility in this performance that has never been surpassed. And the recording still sounds superb today, despite its 50 years of age.

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The performance on Testament is the Lucerne one. The one in the Audite box is from a month or so later and is with the Berlin Philharmonic.

GWP

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Listened yesterday to a little known recording of the concertos & romances I'm rather fond of; Ronald Thomas with the Bournemouth Sinfonietta (on CRD ) with orchestral direction from the violin by Thomas. They also give an excellent rendition of the Mendelssohn concerto on another disc, again without conductor, and soloist and orchestra obviously have an excellent rapport. 

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The recordings I think are really good are Schneiderhan/Jochum, Zehetmair/Bruggen and Faust/Abbado. Anand

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Jean Claude Zylberstein wrote:

A fascinating first post, Jean Claude. Keep it up!

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BazzaRiley wrote:

Jean Claude Zylberstein wrote:

A fascinating first post, Jean Claude. Keep it up!

i think his comment would have made more sense if he'd titled it 4'33" !

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As a variant to Menuhin/Furtwangler there's the Roehn/Furtwangler from 1944, the last concert recorded in the old Philharmonie before its destruction. You can listen to it for free (and - with a little bit of know-how download it) at http://www.kulturradio.de/zum_nachhoeren/furtwaengler.html . Otherwise it is distributed by Deutsche Grammophon.

The sound quality is stunning for the age of the recording, better in terms of presence than the Menuhin/Furtwangler recordings (Philharmonia & Lucerne).

In stereo I best like Perlman/Giulini. 

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