Brahms 1st symphony - is there a really outstanding version that can match Furtwängler?

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botari wrote:

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Parla,

Would you not agree that your strong response to the "simple and austere" Songs and Dances of Death is a consequence of you knowing a priori what the music is about?

A priori?..

Tjh, after some decades of constantly listening to, studying Music, attending concerts etc., I would not call it..."knowing a priori".

Parla

Before the ages

But wouldn't you tend to believe that after these decades you would reach a conclusion along the lines the composer might had already wished for the recipient to conclude? What's the harm of accepting that sooner rather than never?

Benefits?..

No harm, but I don't see the particular benefit. What the composer "wished for the recipient to conclude" is primarily of academic interest. The work, artistically (and not only), goes beyond the desiderata of the composer.

Parla

Cost of value

On the other hand, not everyone may par-ticularly benefit from a wrong interpretation.

Academic interest may also apply to the score.

Jugement de valeur.

On the other hand, I have noticed that not everyone has particularly benefited from the "right" interpretations. Music appreciation is a very personal quest...not always "right", not always "proper"...

Academic interest may apply to the score, if you are not the performer or the interested listener.

Parla

H and not only

On the fourth hand, how the "moment there is a score" came about may be of interest - e.g. Czerny's Quartet for 4 pianos (on a concert I attended recently) containing borrowed themes.

Isn't form, part of the scores you are interested in, also an academic interest?

You can listen uninterested in the aesthetics sense to the Tragic Overture, to fulfill an academic assignment, but you can also have (real) academic interest in the other Overture, and be an aesthetically interested listener as well.

If academic interests apply to non-performers, I think you can tolerate these individuals having interest in at least the titles of compositions, as a start.

You need an authority!

Dear musicophile,

you need an authority in this works, I recommend to you Rudolf Kempe's version conducting the Munich Orch, from my Youtube's channel! 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3i3uckYcfY

 

Regards. oscar.olavarria

 

 

A note on sources

"Academic", "interest" have some Latin origins; as noted earlier, we are in the company of special characters.

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