Brahms' piano concertos, which are the best??

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What about Horowitz-Toscanini, Richter-Kondrashin and Pollini-Abbado?

The Fischer-Furtwängler performance is well below their Beethoven Fifth Piano Concerto. 

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Nobody's mentioned Leon Fleisher / George Szell? It's great!

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I second that, the Fleischer/Szell with the Cleveland are by many considered the gold standard. They've been remastered and re-released on Sony for a budget price!

goofyfoot

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Dear friends,

Ive changed my preferences: to day for Nr 1 my preferred is now Solomon-Kubeliks version, in "Testament", perhaps in the first place neck to neck with Arrau-Kubelik with Bavarian Orchestra in "Orfeo", a recording that is known like "Battle of Titans" because of hard dificulties between conductor and soloist about the tempos and conception of the work, in general. About Nr 2 my preferred always will be  Gilels-Reiner, in RCA Living stereo. Recently ive heard also Barry Douglas-Skrowaczewski in RCA, and I think that its also a first choice for Nr 1. Best regrads. Excuse my english please! oscar.olavarria

 

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oscar.olavarria wrote:

 Recently ive heard also Barry Douglas-Skrowaczewski in RCA, and I think that its also a first choice for Nr 1. 

We heard BD playing this live at the Royal Festival Hall shortly after he won the Tchaikovsky competition and it was a huge disappointment.  The sound hardly projected beyond the lid!  Admittedly, many pianists and conductors seem to struggle with the balance in these concerti, where sometimes I think judicious reining in of the orchestra is needed.

Charitably, we put it down to him being over-committed post competition.  His recent recordings of the solo works show what a fine Brahms player he is now.  I must try the PC1 again, as you are so taken with it.  

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The Liverpool Philharmonic Hall is rather smaller (and acoustically superior) to the RFH & having heard Douglas play Brahms 1 in the former, he certainly projected his sound there & I felt somewhat bruised & battered afterwards!

Incidentally mention of Skrowaczewski reminds me that his LSO recording of No2 with Gina Bachauer (Mercury) is worth an airing.

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A lot of the posts are recommending older recordings so to be different may i suggest that you try Helene Grimaud in No 1 with Statskapelle Berlin and Sanderling.  I heard her play this at Symphony Hall here in Birmingham last year and was struck by the performance.  I think this recording is well worth exploring.

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You're right, Covenant. Grimaud is superb on Brahms, particularly in the few recordings she has made of his solo works, like the Piano Sonata, op.5, on Denon. However, do you think this recording with Sanderling is any sort of something "new"? Definitely, it's not "historical", but it is rather old, albeit quite good and worth exploring, as you suggested.

Parla

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Yes, a fine performance, and interesting: as you say Parla, it's not very new. it was recorded in 1997, when Grimaud was 26 years old. 

Chris A.Gnostic

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Ok it's not that new and actually it's not as good as she was at Symphony Hall (I think, aural memory is hard to be accurate about).  I'd love her to record it again as I suspect she has grown into the piece.

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