Gramophone's 2013 Recordings of the Year

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Let's see some more suggestions

I'd like to see some more suggestions from people on the forum for their own personal favourite recommendation for Gramophone Recording of the Year 2013.

Also, for Parla, and for others who are somewhat rudely dismissive of anything that falls outside of their usual taste ... while each of course is entitled to their opinion, I point out that Emmanuel Pahud saw something more in it when he commented on/reviewed the album which was my suggestion, Ian Clarke's Deep Blue:

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Emmanuel Pahud: "You create new fields of sound and music making on the flute, always expressive and virtuosic ... that takes us beyond anything we've heard before."

If certain people don't like it the suggestion of another, fine, I wouldn't expect everyone to agree, it is more interesting to see what each of us enjoy anyway - but we can differ in our opinions without being disrespectful.

Re: Jane's comment

Hi Jane,

I agree with much of what you say about the general classical chart, which but that is why it is such a shame that Deep Blue was not included in the specialist chart. I maintain Ian Clarke's album is quite definitely classical music.

What is classical music? The specialist classical chart does not use the strict Classical period to determine elegibility, and without that, there is no clear definition. I would point you to the discussion here: http://lowellhohstadt.com/what-is-classical-music/ and here: http://sabrinapenayoung.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/the-death-of-classical-mu...

Clarke's album should have been eligible for the specialist classical chart, and I would be interested to see a copy of any rules which exclude it.

I couldnt understand when I saw it in the general classical chart at number 8, above anything in the specialist chart, why it wasnt at number one in the specialist chart. This immediately brought to my mind Marcellus' words to Horatio (Hamlet 1.4.90)

Ian Clarke's pieces are played by classical flautists in recitals at conservatoires and in concerts across the world, I know people who have done so, and I have seen one or two performances of Ian Clarke playing some of them myself.

His compositions have been included on the classical flute syllabus of both Trinity and ABRSM. Ian Clarke's works are serious, and notated, they are not improvised. The player/composer is professor of flute at a music college.

Take a look at the quote about it from classical flautist Emmanuel Pahud I included above

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Emmanuel Pahud: "You create new fields of sound and music making on the flute, always expressive and virtuosic ... that takes us beyond anything we've heard before."

Yes it is modern, however I cannot see any basis on which to exclude it from being regarded as classical music.

If we or "the music industry" try to exclude music from the specialist classical charts that is serious, contemporary and innovative, and that is a popular choice for conservatoire students and professional classical musicians for recitals and concerts, then we really are doing classical music fans a disservice. How will the general public get exposed to this music? How will we inspire children to want to become composers if we cut them off from what is stimulating the students in conservatoires?

We may as well say you cant call anything classical music unless the composer has been dead for 100 years, classical will become synonymous with antique if we are not careful.

Many of the great composers of their day were popular and famous. If classical music is not to hand over its power entirely to pop music, then we need to promote and encourage contemporary composers who write serious music for serious instrumentalists.

RE: Gramophone's 2013 Recordings of the Year

Flutefan - just a quick note - a couple of pieces by Giacinto Scelsi for solo flute came up in passing on the Listening Project thread, Quays being one. They are on youtube. Quite interesting music...

Mark

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RE: Gramophone's 2013 Recordings of the Year

I agree with FluteFan in that it would be very interesting to hear what other posters think have been outstanding recordings released over the last twelve months. I don´t buy many CDs these days, but here are three that I have particularly enjoyed. !. An opera that I have been absorbing recently, and thoroughly enjoying is George Benjamin´s Written on Skin, released on Nimbus.2. A CD that has a wonderfully imaginative programme which means you can listen to it right through is Lieux Retrouves by Thomas Ades and Stephen Isserlis.3. Finally I would highly recommend Stephen Osborne´s account of piano music by Mussorgsky and Prokofiev. I love Prokofiev´s Visions Fugitives, and this is the best recording I have ever heard.  

RE: Gramophone's 2013 Recordings of the Year

Whichever is going to be the so called "recording of the year", it has to be a CD reviewed by Gramophone, to be original and new recording, having a certain level of potential popularity and artistic acceptance.

This "Deep Blue" does not meet these criteria. However, I guess I should not hold my breath as for the "review" step. Concerning the top "award", it is out of question, dear Ian. You have to be prepared for that. In any case, it is not such a big deal.

Parla

Replying to Parla

Hi Parla,
I am not saying it is a big deal in the slightest. I was just entering into the spirit of the forum by making a recommendation. I am certainly not Ian, I am simply a fellow flute player who likes his music, so please do not refer to me as such.

Replying to Partsong re Giantino Scelsi

Hi Partsong - yes, I love Quays, now that is more my sort of thing.

Replying to dubrob re recommended CD's

Hi Dubrob,
Thanks, I will check them out, they sound interesting

RE: Replying to James re Recording of the Year nominations

OK, Thanks for the clarification!

Another one from me, under 'Opera': Jonas Kaufmann's Wagner recital: superb Wagner singing with so much promise for future complete recordings.

Chris

Chris A.Gnostic

Opera category recommendation

I think my recommendation for the opera recording of the year would probably be Mozart's La Finta Giardiniera (Freiburger Barockorchester/Jacobs)

Plenty of snippets to listen to here!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mozart-Giardiniera-Freiburger-Barockorchester-Ja...

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