How to get started in listening to Wagner?

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parla wrote:

parla wrote:

So, you got it eventually, Guillaume, except perhaps for the...whimper.

Maybe you are wrong about the timing too. In any case, it is Christmas time, a New Year is coming...in other words, it is a great Holiday Season. The world can go on in any way and good wishes cannot be spared. So, Merry Christmas dear friend and have a Happy Holiday Season.

Parla

Parla, I'm not sure exactly what it is I've got (not even excepting the whimper).
But a Happy New Year to you anyway.

Good wishes.

Kein Problem, if you are not sure exactly what it is you've got, Guillaume.

Your good wishes matter, however.

(Gesegnet sei, du Reiner, durch das Reine!).

Parla

enden, Erkenntnis

Ha! Wie sagt' ich?

Ha! wie sagte er?

wie soll ich's denken?

Wie es erfassen!

 


parla wrote:

There is no problem, if you cannot follow my logic.

 

 

Und für das Ende

jetzt versteh’ ich

den stummen Sinn

des wilden Wortes der W

 

(The end of some posts may occasionally, but the third post of the year is totally, devoted to Wagner).

Falsch aber fein.

Er schrieb das nicht und meinte das auch nicht, aber Missinterpretation der Geschichte ist heutzutage nicht so seltsam.

(Misjudgement is...a' la mode...nowadays).

Hoffnunglos Ihrer Logik gewidmet, du treuster geehrt Freund.

(Always appreciated your logic, even if there is little hope to get into it, you most devoted friend).

Parla

P.S.: Schreckliche Produktionen von Wagners Werke sind ebenfalls in Mode.

 (Wagner's legacy could not escape of the dreadful fashion of our times).

Falsch aber treuster, anscheinend

Zurück vom Ring!

 

(In case appreciation of logic, or power, is misjudged, there is no problem; we can go back to, not stay back from, the source).

 

Ewig endlos

 

(Always appreciated Wagner’s legacy opera house pass, even if there is little hope to get into it, with non-dreadful productions).

Almost everybody is not a shadow


Quote:

Why does almost everybody ignore Eliahu Inbal's Mahler

 

ist mir doch fast, als sprächen

 


parla wrote:

Inbal’s Mahler

Act in f sharp minor


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what is written as introductory note

Erhebe dich, Genossin


Quote:

in the booklet

If there was a third symphony totally devoted to

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Kalinnikov’s First is pleasant to listen to

Wolltet Ihr noch einen dritten dichten 

(Though both of his symphonies might not had been composed under pleasant conditions)

There could be...

Willst du noch eine angenehme Situation?

(Pleasurable music cannot come only from pleasant conditions).

Parla

There could be ... a source

lauscht ich sonst wohl gern und viel;

Bald wollt es mich wie Schmerz durchbeben


(Whether a work can be described as pleasurable should be deferred to the composer’s intentions if possible, no matter the compositional condition)

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