Karajan "The vienna Years"

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Carlos Kleiber has done the same thing, on Orfeo. However, I trust this is the production team and the label's arrogance or shortcomings rather than the conductor's.

Parla

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From Karajan's Vienna years, though obviously not recorded in Vienna, I've just been listening again to the wonderful performance of Wagner's Tristan und Isolde he conducted at the 1952 Bayreuth Festival, issued in pretty good sound on Orfeo. Erotic, powerful, wonderfully played and sung: nothing 'rough' about it except where it should be rough. Besides Karajan, it also seems to me one of the finest testimonies to the art of its Isolde, Marta Mödl.

I suspect even those not fond of Karajan (amongst whom I include myself, as far as his later recordings are concerned) would be impressed, hearing it blind!

Chris

Chris A.Gnostic

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LDenham1 wrote:

… the story of the chorus disappearing behind a cloud of their own vapour in a freezing cold hall once they had started singing in the final movement of Beethoven's Ninth amusingly seems to sum everything up !

Just so! Not least because reading such a well-chilled anecdote is far preferable to experiencing it in the flesh!

(I mean to imply nothing grumpy or cheaply sardonic in the preceding remark, incidentally. I have occasionally related mud- and misery-free details of my reluctant combat service in Vietnam many decades ago, and I am, thank the good Lord, at an age where my scrubbed recollections have practically routed my unscrubbed ones, even on my own memory's ground.)

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Thomas McCarthy wrote:

I agree entirely about this splendid performance, Chris, about Mödl's as well. The Siegfried with Aldenhoff (from the previous year, was it?) is virtually as wonderful.

Yes indeed, and it was 1951, though it was Varnay, not Mödl as Brünnhhilde. So far only Rheingold and Siegfried have surfaced from Karajan's cycle, and in pretty wretched sound unfortunately. The EMI Walküre Act 3 offers a glimpse of what might have been, and there are persistent rumours that EMI's tapes of the rest still exist, but alas no sign so far.

Chris

Chris A.Gnostic

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c hris johnson wrote:

Thomas McCarthy wrote:

I agree entirely about this splendid performance, Chris, about Mödl's as well. The Siegfried with Aldenhoff (from the previous year, was it?) is virtually as wonderful.

Yes indeed, and it was 1951, though it was Varnay, not Mödl as Brünnhhilde. So far only Rheingold and Siegfried have surfaced from Karajan's cycle, and in pretty wretched sound unfortunately. The EMI Walküre Act 3 offers a glimpse of what might have been, and there are persistent rumours that EMI's tapes of the rest still exist, but alas no sign so far.

Chris

Chris

I agree with you in regards to the merits of Karajan's early Bayreuth Ring Cycle and (if you can find it) the live Salzburg Ring, both very different beasts from the very good, but slightly self conscious studio DG effort. With regards to the remainder of the Bayreuth Cycle though, EMI had it listed as being in their archives for years, but I have been told that the liner notes in the Testament Keilberth Ring state they have deteriorated beyond repair..... Let's hope they're wrong !

LD1

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LD1 wrote:

"With regards to the remainder of the [Karajan] Bayreuth Cycle though, EMI had it listed as being in their archives for years, but I have been told that the liner notes in the Testament Keilberth Ring state they have deteriorated beyond repair..... Let's hope they're wrong!"

Yes, let's hope so.  I have the Testament Ring CDs and don't find any mention of the EMI tapes. I have the four individual boxes, perhaps there is something in the more recently issued single box.  Odd though, Meistersinger and Walkure Act 3 still seem to be OK.  Otherwise I suppose there is still the chance that Bavarian Radio original tapes survive and will be released.

Chris

Added later: I've just found a blog on the web that Testament have found EMI tapes. According to the blog the sound is not all that good, and furthermore the tapes have all been cut into 4' sections ready for transfer to 78s!  The mind boggles! That must be around 250 sides.

Chris A.Gnostic

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Oh Oscar, how could I have forgotten to mention Vinay, and in your thread too!.  Indeed one of the greatest of all Otellos, and a superb Tristan indeed!

Chris

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