Lieder and Lieder Singers

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Yes, Orpheus, I somehow remember Barry McDaniel, since, as an avid collector, I come across different artists through the different recordings I purchase. I was glad enough to see him singing, once more, the role of Harlekin in the Ariadne auf Naxos, in the live performance of Vienna State Opera, with Karl Bohm (1976, Orfeo). In the same vein, he was such a versatile Barber in the rare gem of R. Strauss' Die schweigsame Frau, from Bayerische Staatsoper, with Sawallisch (1971, Orfeo).

I have also his interesting contribution in the A. Reimann's Lieder CD, on Orfeo too. Thanks for the suggestion of the Audite recent double CD (very bold on their behalf).

I have been in Berlin from early 2003- end 2007 and I have never heard anything about him being around. He should keep a very low profile.

Parla

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parla wrote:

We should not forget the brilliant contribution of some British singers, like Janet Baker, John Shirley-Quirk and Felicity Lott. They all have some extensive and truly solid discography worth of repeated lstening.

From the American side, Susan Graham has some fine recordings in Lieder, Songs or Chansons.

 

Parla

 

Parla,

:-D, :-D, :-D

Agreed! And thank you for mentioning her! I've heard/seen her perform live once (so far). She sang Berlioz's "Les Nuits d'Ete". Wonderful IMHO! My friend, who grew up in a French-speaking household, also thought that her diction was perfect. 

And I've become a big fan of Janet Baker. I don't know *Felicity Lott's recordings. Do also like John Shirley-Quirk's voice from what I recall (of the little bit that I've heard of his recordings) too.

*Any suggestions anyone?

Best wishes,

Petra


 

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Petra, there is an abundance of excellent recordings of Felicity Lott. She is not a very beautiful voice, but she is a very intelligent singer, who knows how to use her instrument and technic, so that she can deliver the message as good as it can get. From a huge array of lieder recordings (let alone the Opera and Choral contributions), I can suggest the following, as a strarting point and as indicative ones of her versatility and art:

-With Harp: "Cantare", on Naive, with the great harpist I. Moretti. Brilliant program of a quite varied and unexpected repertory. Excellent recording.

-With Piano: Live: The live recital from Wigmore Hall, on the label of the homonymous hall (from 2005) with Gr. Johnson and a great variety of program (from Bliss to Wolf).

-With Piano: Studio recordings: a) "Call me Flott", on Champs Hill, with G. Johnson. A very "educational" and entertaining program, including the lighter side of her art (Novello, Berlin, Barber, Coward) along with the British classics (Bridge, Bliss), French (Gounod, Hahn, Poulenc, Saint-Saens) and more. Fine recording.

b) "My own Country" with G. Johnson, on Champs Hill. Her bright rendition of a typical collection of the Classic English songbook. Very good recording.

c) "R. Strauss: Songs" with G. Johnson, on Champs Hill. A mature view of a classic repertory of hers, in a very recent and bright recording.

d) "Summertime" with G. Johnson, on Champs Hill. A great program of delightful songs on Summer from USA, England, France and Germany in a span of three centuries (Bernstein, Gershwin, Arne, berlioz, Brahms, Ireland, Schumann etc.). The whole recital flows as a single, sustained program on an original theme. Excellent recording.

- With Chamber Ensemble: "Mahler and Wagner: Transcriptions for Soprano and String Quartet". A very interesting program of Mahler's Ruckeert-Lieder and Wagner's Wesedonk-Lieder along Tristan und Isolde's Prelude and Liebestod. Verey focussed performances, in brilliant transcriptions, with a most committed Lott and the Schumann String Quartet. On Aeon (originally, excellent product), now on a mid-price CD of the Outhere, in their "Rewind Collection" (cheap product).

- With Orchestra: "Chausson, Ravel, Duparc", with Orch. de la Suisse Romande under Armin Jordan, on Aeon. Excellent performances of the great Classics of the French Orchestral Songbook ("Poeme de l' amour et de la mer", "Sheherazade", plus three Songs by Duparc), in a great recording.

F. Lott is a great singer everyone has to explore not only in the Lieder but also in any other form of Vocal composition. As I said her recordings are plenty. L'embarras du choix!

Parla

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I wouldn’t call Parla’s list of Lott's Lieder-recordings comprehensive. In fact, I think it has rather caught him out again! Obviously he hasn’t even heard Lott’s recording of Mahler- & Wagner-transcription’s (let alone he owns it), since it doesn’t contain transcriptions for soprano and string quartet: the Quatuor Schumann isn’t a string quartet, but a piano quartet and the transcriber of the songs is the pianist of the Schumanns. Parla is, not for the first time, just parroting what he found on the internet (some internetstores he presumably uses to pretend he has The Collection To End All Collections mistakenly state the recording concerns transcriptions for soprano & string quartet). Also, all the Lott-recordings Parla is summing up are more or less recent ones and I’m really not sure they present her artistry in the best way. I believe Lott’s voice hast lost a lot of the radiance it had earlier in her career and none of her more recent recordings, as far as I know them of course, show her at her best. For that you need to listen to, for instance, her Britten orchestral songs-recording with Bryden Thomson, but I have to say that to my ears her singing never sounds is if it comes naturally to her (compare her recording of Delage’s Hindu-songs with the famous one from Janet Baker and the Melos Ensemble, now available through Australian Eloquence).

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Lilian, you are right that Felicity Lott's voice was, like so many singers, fresher in her earlier years, but with age came even greater artistry.  I've just noticed though that a lovely record of Schubert Lieder first issued on Pickwick in 1993 and long since deleted, is now available on Regis.  For better or worse, all the most popular songs but beautifully sung.

The Mahler - Richard Strauss CD is curious.  The sleeve of the CD announces, exactly as Parla quotes "Transcriptions for Soprano and String Quartet" but indeed the Quartet is a Piano Quartet." Perhaps no-one was listening when they recorded it!

Ultimately though, Felicity Lott is one of those singers that seemed greater in the flesh than on record. If you were there, her sheer musical personality was magic: rather like Schwarzkopf, who might sometrimes sound too arch on record but never if you were there.

Chris

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c hris johnson wrote:

Hi Petra! I don't think it's easily possible to add much to Parla's comprehensive list of Lott's recordings of Lieder, and song generally. She was (is) a wonderfully characterful singer. Being at one of her recitals was a rare privilege!

Janet Baker was a wonderful Lieder singer. When DF-D was recording all the Schubert songs suitable for male voice he tried to persuade DG to record all the female-voice songs with Janet Baker. They were willing but EMI refused to release her from her exclusive contract and also refused to record the songs themselves. A sad state of affairs! The did make a two-LP set ( with Gerald Moore) and much later another LP (with Geoffrey Parsons).

Lorraine Hunt Lieberson also made some fine Lieder recordings, as I'm sure you know Petra!

Antskip, I completely agree with you about the Hugo Wolf Society set. It has been giving me enormous pleasure and is, as you say, superbly well presented. Recently I've also acquired the latest EMI re-issue of Schubert Lieder on Record: another treasure chest, about which, more later!

Chris

 

Chris,

Thanks for that anecdote. I'm embarrassed to say, but I really must haul out my lieder more often! There I was thinking, "Gee, I don't have any recordings of Lieberson singing Mahler...I know that she did record some...hmmm...I wonder..."and yes, you can figure out the rest! Cue: a Wigmore Hall Live CD! What can I say, my brain is elsewhere today! Sigh... :-(

Parla,

Thank you for your long list of Lott (lots of Lott?). Me thinks that I would do best just focusing on one or two special gems.

Best wishes,

Petra

 

 

 

 

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Lilian, I never implied anywhere that my suggested F. Lott "list" was "comprehensive". I clearly said that it is offered as a "starting point" and it is "indicative". I also mentioned that F. Lott's discography is quite big, so there is plenty to choose and to indulge in.

The reason I chose the more recent ones is duofold: a) Petra might get them easier and b) I also believe a voice which, in any case, is not that beautiful, it is better to be enjoyed at its maturity. Besides, the recordings are first rate. Personally, I prefer some of her Forlane recordings ("F. Lott s'amuse" and "F. Lott s'amuse...ouf Deutsch"), her contribution in the core repertory, as the Hyperion Schubert cycle (Vol.19) or Schumann and Faure(on Hyperion too) and some of the old HM CDs (with the excellent themes of songs on poems of V. Hugo and Baudelaire).

Finally, thanks for the correction. I do own the original recording on Aeon, which I purchased it, when it was released. I have listened to it at the time of purchase and the memory of the whole listening experience was great. Of course, when I had to refer to it, I did not have the luxury to go to the shelfs to locate it. Actually, it came already in front of me as a new reissue, quite recently, from my various sources of being informed about them. For some strange reason, Outhere mentioned it as "transcriptions for Soprano and String Quartet". I never thought I had to contest it and check it again. However, the message counts and that is the CD in question is a unique (or too rare) case of a brilliant combination of voice and Chamber Ensemble. And I trust this matters to Petra (and anyone interested) more than the nature of the "ensemble".

Finally, dear Lilian, when I (still) can and feel I have to follow the new releases, the frequency of listening to a good number of them (a good double digit) per month is an issue per se. You may doubt it, but I do not ask anyone to believe it either. The only reason I have to resort to the internet is bcause I do not have the luxury of time to respond from my home (most of the time), consulting each and single CD I have to refer to.

Parla

 

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Nice try, lilianruhe.

Many of us have tried to catch Parla over the years......

........and come away empty-handed.

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It's not just a question of personality, Vic, I'm afraid it's also a question of someone misusing this forum to uphold his self-made myth, while having no scruples about intellectual dishonesty. The way I perceive it his attitude holds the danger of rubbing off on Gramophone Magazine. In the end a question of guilt by association? But in stating my perception, we all know which author-who-had-an-affair-with-her-father Parla is going to call upon to rescue him. Anyone searching for a reliable witness for the defence? Try Anaïs Nin! Come to think of it: perhaps Louis Andriessen's chamber opera on the subject, in his usual no holds barred style, is a Geheimtipp for Parla – readily available through Signum Records.

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Something appropriate? How about a little quote from a great Lieder-composer? Die Gedanken sind frei! (Just not in your and Parla's universe…)

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