Sibelius masterwerk

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parla wrote:

.....great interest in listening even the Woo of Beethoven....

Parla

Woo of Beethoven?

JKH

JKH

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I think the standard designation is "WoO" to differentiate from the "woo" of "Woo hoo!"

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I already mentioned that WoO is the abbreviation in German of the Werke ohne Opus, (in English Works without opus number, as Jane indicated). Some of the most important ones are the two sets of Variations for Piano and Cello, WoO 45 (on a theme from Hanendel's Oratorio "Judas Maccabeus" and 46 (on the "Ein Madchen oder Weibchen" from Mozart's Zauberflote"), equally important and beautiful with the third set, which has the op.66 (on the "Bei Mannern, welche Liebe fuhlen" from Mozart's Zauberflote).

Fur Elise (irritating for some !) is also another well-known case of a WoO by Beethoven, as very correctly Jane mentioned.

Is it clear now JKH?

Parla

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"The standard designation" is WoO because in German the first letter of the nouns is written always with capital (Opus). I thought there was no need to write it with the correct or standard "designation" (or better abbreviation) in an English forum. Thus, I wrote Woo, while I wrote the full wording in German anyway.

Parla

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Maybe, we have to be glad they know by now.

Parla

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It's okay - we all make mistakes. The important thing is that we learn from them.

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I agree with Phlogiston. Sibelius is truly great and his music is most expressive. P is spot on regarding "uneven-ness".

Plum

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parla wrote:

I already mentioned that WoO is the abbreviation in German of the Werke ohne Opus.......................

Is it clear now JKH?

Parla

Perfectly, thank you Parla. And apologies for not instantly recalling your previous reference to it - so many posts on the forum, so little time to read them all......

JKH

JKH

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Thanks, JKH

Glad to be of service. I only know because they crop up on piano sheet music quite a lot.......

But I am the same with Beethoven. I know the Opus numbers of some (especially the late sonatas and quartets), others I know only by name. I used to work with a guy who knew most of the Schubert D numbers off by heart and would refuse to refer to a piece by any other way. He would say, "Lovely opening movement of D850" and you would say, "Which one is that?", and he would looked puzzled and tell you that he didn't know. D850 was all he knew........

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janeeliotgardiner wrote:

Thanks, JKH

Glad to be of service. I only know because they crop up on piano sheet music quite a lot.......

But I am the same with Beethoven. I know the Opus numbers of some (especially the late sonatas and quartets), others I know only by name. I used to work with a guy who knew most of the Schubert D numbers off by heart and would refuse to refer to a piece by any other way. He would say, "Lovely opening movement of D850" and you would say, "Which one is that?", and he would looked puzzled and tell you that he didn't know. D850 was all he knew........

And greybeards (not you of course, Jane!) will recall Face The Music with Joseph Cooper and his dummy keyboard, where the late Robin Ray had an uncannily encyclopedic recall for Opus numbers.

 

JKH

JKH

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