Lucas Debargue, who shot to fame during the 2015 International Tchaikovsky Competition where he took fourth prize, but totally stole the audience’s hearts, and shortly after was signed by Sony Classical. 'Żal' is Debargue's sixth album for the label and, joined by the violinist Gidon Kremer and his Kremerata Baltica, he explores the music of the Polish composer and pianist Miłosz Magin (1929-99) who, like Chopin, settled in Paris.

James Jolly caught up with Debargue by video call to talk about the album and to learn what Żal is, and to hear how Debargue and Gidon Kremer collaborated n this new album.

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